Application question?
02-12-2021 | 03:38 AM
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I'm in the same boat as you though, I was getting my application in order in January then everything went to hell. I've got zero interest in flying wide bodies across 6 time zones for 15 hours. I'm looking for quality of life and Spirit is where it's at.
02-12-2021 | 04:59 AM
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I do find it funny that people think Sandi is a sleuth at sniffing out people who don’t want to be at Spirit for their entire career. Really? A recent poster in these Spirit forums mentioned how every FO he used to fly with was looking at moving on, maybe less so after the contract, and certainly less so after the affects of Covid long term. Ok, that’s just one anecdote, but we also hired a 23 year old kid in the fall of ‘19 that called out sick during sims to attend a Delta interview and subsequently left. That’s the extreme, but certainly not the only one that has left in recent years.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
02-12-2021 | 05:58 AM
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I do find it funny that people think Sandi is a sleuth at sniffing out people who don’t want to be at Spirit for their entire career. Really? A recent poster in these Spirit forums mentioned how every FO he used to fly with was looking at moving on, maybe less so after the contract, and certainly less so after the affects of Covid long term. Ok, that’s just one anecdote, but we also hired a 23 year old kid in the fall of ‘19 that called out sick during sims to attend a Delta interview and subsequently left. That’s the extreme, but certainly not the only one that has left in recent years.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
02-12-2021 | 06:15 AM
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I do find it funny that people think Sandi is a sleuth at sniffing out people who don’t want to be at Spirit for their entire career. Really? A recent poster in these Spirit forums mentioned how every FO he used to fly with was looking at moving on, maybe less so after the contract, and certainly less so after the affects of Covid long term. Ok, that’s just one anecdote, but we also hired a 23 year old kid in the fall of ‘19 that called out sick during sims to attend a Delta interview and subsequently left. That’s the extreme, but certainly not the only one that has left in recent years.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
That said, I’m not saying Sandi is bad at her job, far from it. I just suggest retention prospect is not, nor should it be, the bar by which she’s measured. She wants people who want to be here, a happy employee is a good employee, they usually give more effort and successful in initial training, they do their job with more passion, treat the customers better, work to advance company initiatives, and are less problematic employees for the CP’s and HR. I’d say she’s excellent at sniffing those people out, if they stay until they retire that’s just a by product of the type of person she’s looking for. My advice, do your research, believe in the Spirit model and make her believe it and you’ll do fine in the interview.
If SF was bad at weeding out the stone steppers we’d have a much higher attrition rate. Our attrition was in the low double digits each year back when everyone was hiring. Sure a handful of people slip through the cracks but I think considering that most don’t start their careers wanting to be a Spirit pilot she does a pretty good job.
02-12-2021 | 06:32 AM
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If SF was bad at weeding out the stone steppers we’d have a much higher attrition rate. Our attrition was in the low double digits each year back when everyone was hiring. Sure a handful of people slip through the cracks but I think considering that most don’t start their careers wanting to be a Spirit pilot she does a pretty good job.
02-12-2021 | 07:02 AM
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Get over the butthurtness and/or inferiority complexes and instead start kicking butt. If Spirit can’t out compete companies trying to compete with the wrong aircraft types for the mission or with billions of dollars of those high priced international aircraft parked while they are paying leases or bond interest on them, then Spirit doesn’t deserve respect. Win the recovery and you’ll get plenty of respect. This is the environment the ULCC model was designed for.
Time to seize the moment.
02-12-2021 | 07:14 AM
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You'd think that if stopping stone steppers was a priority, then seemingly good FOs would be more desirable than anyone with 121 PIC.
I decided to go to Spirit and didn't apply anywhere else, but as an FO to FO hire, I also can't realistically go anywhere else.
Given it will be at least 5 years before I have anywhere close to the TPIC mins for any other job, it won't make sense then to go to the bottom of another list, just so I can upgrade again and own 4 jet skis instead of 2.
I decided to go to Spirit and didn't apply anywhere else, but as an FO to FO hire, I also can't realistically go anywhere else.
Given it will be at least 5 years before I have anywhere close to the TPIC mins for any other job, it won't make sense then to go to the bottom of another list, just so I can upgrade again and own 4 jet skis instead of 2.
02-12-2021 | 08:56 AM
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You'd think that if stopping stone steppers was a priority, then seemingly good FOs would be more desirable than anyone with 121 PIC.
I decided to go to Spirit and didn't apply anywhere else, but as an FO to FO hire, I also can't realistically go anywhere else.
Given it will be at least 5 years before I have anywhere close to the TPIC mins for any other job, it won't make sense then to go to the bottom of another list, just so I can upgrade again and own 4 jet skis instead of 2.
I decided to go to Spirit and didn't apply anywhere else, but as an FO to FO hire, I also can't realistically go anywhere else.
Given it will be at least 5 years before I have anywhere close to the TPIC mins for any other job, it won't make sense then to go to the bottom of another list, just so I can upgrade again and own 4 jet skis instead of 2.
02-12-2021 | 09:42 AM
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Well from what I've heard they're pretty good at weeding out folks who aren't looking to hopefully retire at Spirit, so hopefully that'll help.
I'm in the same boat as you though, I was getting my application in order in January then everything went to hell. I've got zero interest in flying wide bodies across 6 time zones for 15 hours. I'm looking for quality of life and Spirit is where it's at.
I'm in the same boat as you though, I was getting my application in order in January then everything went to hell. I've got zero interest in flying wide bodies across 6 time zones for 15 hours. I'm looking for quality of life and Spirit is where it's at.
02-12-2021 | 10:35 AM
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SF can see when you first submitted an app, so I don’t think you’ll be lumped in with all the new first time applicants. I had an app on file for over a year before I got an invite to the meet the chiefs and it came up during the interview.
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