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ASAPsafetyGUY 01-20-2020 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2960574)
So?

(KAUS is served by pretty much every airline in the US, I don't think any have a base there.)

lol, this comment is...by the way, who the heck uses the Kilo?

Super EZ E 01-20-2020 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=symbian simian;2960574]So?

Really? The loads are full! Nothing like having your own Airport!

symbian simian 01-20-2020 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=Super EZ E;2960633]

Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2960574)
So?

Really? The loads are full! Nothing like having your own Airport!

I never said we shouldn't fly there, I wonder why we have a base there. There is probably just as many people commuting from DEN to LAS as we have living in ACY, and the same amount of daily departures. Open the DEN base!

symbian simian 01-20-2020 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2960619)
lol, this comment is...by the way, who the heck uses the Kilo?

Former ATC.

Qotsaautopilot 01-20-2020 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2960618)
I understand this. These bases are also much larger, therefore, making far more sense. I’ve been based in bigger huh bases, at other airlines, that never overnighted outside crews.

Again, they seem to care about saving money here. Eliminating outside crew overnights, at a ridiculously/insanely small domicile, that could easily be covered by all ACY based guys, would be a start.

The moral of the story (for everyone that asks) is ACY can close and be served, by outside crews overnighting, with ZERO issues. Who knows if/what BWI would do to ACY. For whatever reason powers at be seem to love it so I would not be shocked at all if it never closes.

Thats what the pairing optimizer does. It saves money. It takes into account the CBA, FARs, where we have domiciles, hotel costs, and aircraft mx flow. Having ACY crews doing certain flights could easily push the cost over on something more than simply hotels.

Our network schedule changes each month because we are a growing airline. This changes the overall flying in the system which is why flying moves in and out of bases. Say we add one flight from ACY to XYZ and one from LAS to XYZ this month. They can’t just put those flights in the domicile they originate at. They run the pairing optimizer and it reshuffles the entire deck for the lowest cost. The lowest network cost could very well be the ACY crew doing the LAS flight and the LAS crew doing the ACY flight.

SSlow 01-20-2020 04:29 PM

This is super effed up, but you can be home more in FLL by swapping for flying in other domiciles that come and steal our flying. I'm not talking about the pairings that simply pass thru for an overnight before heading back someplace else, but Spirit literally has crews from other domiciles that come into our base and camp out for multiple days doing turns and staying in expensive South Florida hotels for three straight overnights. The only thing they are "optimizing" is the kick below the belt.

Tranquility 01-20-2020 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2960748)
This is super effed up, but you can be home more in FLL by swapping for flying in other domiciles that come and steal our flying. I'm not talking about the pairings that simply pass thru for an overnight before heading back someplace else, but Spirit literally has crews from other domiciles that come into our base and camp out for multiple days doing turns and staying in expensive South Florida hotels for three straight overnights. The only thing they are "optimizing" is the kick below the belt.

As someone who’s based up north, doing FLL flying in the winter = score!! That’s how my trips are built...
Playing a small violin..... :rolleyes:

SSlow 01-20-2020 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2960760)
As someone who’s based up north, doing FLL flying in the winter = score!! That’s how my trips are built...
Playing a small violin..... :rolleyes:

Well at least it's working out for someone

symbian simian 01-21-2020 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2960768)
Well at least it's working out for someone

In LAS 90% of the 4 day FLL trips are jungle turns you can't do because redeye+1.

Omniscient 01-21-2020 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2960748)
This is super effed up, but you can be home more in FLL by swapping for flying in other domiciles that come and steal our flying. I'm not talking about the pairings that simply pass thru for an overnight before heading back someplace else, but Spirit literally has crews from other domiciles that come into our base and camp out for multiple days doing turns and staying in expensive South Florida hotels for three straight overnights. The only thing they are "optimizing" is the kick below the belt.

Did you really say “steal our flying?”


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