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Qotsaautopilot 01-21-2020 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Balker (Post 2961166)
Of course I get that part, but there’s no way in hell the trip optimizer couldn’t find other legs for those crews. ALPA’s scheduling committee has more say that you might think (strangely, they don’t devote their energies to stop those 2-leg red eyes going thru LAS, a crew base).

it’s not going to find them without increasing cost. That thing solves for lowest global cost, period.

25.A.4
The Company and the Association Scheduling Committee will review the monthly bid package prior to its publication and will confer on other occasions to discuss scheduling problems and improvements.

Doesnt sound like much influence to me.

25.A.1.a
The Company and the Association Scheduling Committee shall jointly construct all lines and pairings so as to assure safety of flight (i.e., no redeye-plus-one pairings, and no more than one check-in per calendar day). Redeye-plus-one pairings have any duty period portion within the hours of 0200 and 0459 local domicile time and after the first flight leg a subsequent flight leg scheduled to depart after 0300 local domicile time.

sounds to me like it’s only about safety issues. No fatigue reports and it’s all good. Remember we can always fill out an informational fatigue report about bad pairings.

flyingpuma1 01-21-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2961297)
Who cares you ask? Probably those who have the seniority to hold what should be a turn in domicile, so they can go home and sleep in their own bed at night. I think they would probably care.



If you wanted to be home every night (mostly) then you should have gone to Allegiant. There’s never any guarantees that the schedules out of each bases will keep a certain number of turns. I certainly have seen them disappear out of my base and yet I don’t care if it cost the company more money in overnighting people, honestly I hope it does as I don’t see a profit sharing check.


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Balker 01-22-2020 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2961327)
it’s not going to find them without increasing cost. That thing solves for lowest global cost, period.

25.A.4
The Company and the Association Scheduling Committee will review the monthly bid package prior to its publication and will confer on other occasions to discuss scheduling problems and improvements.

Doesnt sound like much influence to me.

25.A.1.a
The Company and the Association Scheduling Committee shall jointly construct all lines and pairings so as to assure safety of flight (i.e., no redeye-plus-one pairings, and no more than one check-in per calendar day). Redeye-plus-one pairings have any duty period portion within the hours of 0200 and 0459 local domicile time and after the first flight leg a subsequent flight leg scheduled to depart after 0300 local domicile time.

sounds to me like it’s only about safety issues. No fatigue reports and it’s all good. Remember we can always fill out an informational fatigue report about bad pairings.

I know what’s written. I was referring to what happens behind closed doors.


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