Spirit Pilot Hiring in 2020 & Beyond
03-16-2020, 01:20 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
- Our April schedule has been adjusted, with flights reduced.
- Pilot new hire classes will still be held in April but will be smaller than originally planned. All further classes are cancelled.
- Furloughs are not currently planned, but a reduction may be necessary depending on how the situation develops in the coming days and weeks.
Yes new hire classes in the same email that mentions the word furlough and reduction of force. Makes so much sense. This place is run by monkeys at least the other airline CEO’s have been honest
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03-16-2020, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Arliss
The also mentioned any reduction of force would first be mitigated by the voluntary leaves and early retirement packages.
03-16-2020, 02:03 PM
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I’d like to see tiered options in line with what AA has offered - those seem a lot more likely to be accepted by a useful number of pilots than straight unpaid LOAs & early retirements (which, as previously mentioned, don’t really apply here). Not sure how realistic that is, but heck I’d be willing...
03-16-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
We have 50 people scheduled to retire in the next 5 years, I don't think anyone younger than 60 wil take an early out, so that is not going to have any impact. The VLOA is unpaid, so the only ones taking that are going to be the bottom of the list just to avoid furlough and keep benefits.
03-16-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousShirley
I’d like to see tiered options in line with what AA has offered - those seem a lot more likely to be accepted by a useful number of pilots than straight unpaid LOAs & early retirements (which, as previously mentioned, don’t really apply here). Not sure how realistic that is, but heck I’d be willing...
03-16-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris25
what are these tiered options at AA you speak of?
2. Paid (55hr) LOA of 1, 3, or 6mo, retaining seniority & all benefits.
3. Paid (50hr) Permanent LOA for ages 62+, retaining all benefits.
03-16-2020, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousShirley
I’d like to see tiered options in line with what AA has offered - those seem a lot more likely to be accepted by a useful number of pilots than straight unpaid LOAs & early retirements (which, as previously mentioned, don’t really apply here). Not sure how realistic that is, but heck I’d be willing...
03-16-2020, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
The reason AA offers paid leave is because of their diverse fleet. They have parked all the wide bodies, so all their senior people are now without work. If they want to furlough, they would have to retrain many people. We don't have to do anything but re-qualify some people for the right seat if we furlough.
03-17-2020, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 5and20
This is so on point. The downside of having a limited fleet is that it makes it very easy to just shed a bunch of FOs give one to Sim to your captains to make them FOs and continue along. That’s why most likely Southwest and spirit would not offer any type of stay at home pay.
I can’t imagine people taking the VLOA with no credit. When they don’t get enough takers, I’d imagine they would have to strike a deal for paid VLOA; its the easiest way to shed near term
costs, without the costs of furlough.
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