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Spirit Pilot Hiring in 2020 & Beyond
What do hiring projections look like at Spirit this year and into the foreseeable future?
After firming up the 100 aircraft order (and still options for an additional 50 jets), obviously more pilots will be coming. I know a lot of pilots are happy at Spirit, but you know X number of pilots on property likely have apps in for legacies and possibly FedEx, UPS. Between either 100 or 150 new jets and attrition, what does the hiring picture look like at HR? Additionally, with all U.S. carriers collectively hiring over 7,000 pilots in 2020 alone, what do you believe will happen with competitive minimums? Are they managed to get their preferred minimums as is today (i.e. 4,000 hours total time in fixed wing aircraft, 1,500 hours in multi-engine, turboprop or jet aircraft, A320 type, undergraduate degree, etc.), or are they hiring at mins (3,000 hours total time in fixed wing aircraft, 1,000 hours in multi-engine aircraft) ... or even sub 3,000 hour pilots? |
Spirit Pilot Hiring in 2020 & Beyond
Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot
(Post 2957094)
What do hiring projections look like at Spirit this year and into the foreseeable future?
After firming up the 100 aircraft order (and still options for an additional 50 jets), obviously more pilots will be coming. I know a lot of pilots are happy at Spirit, but you know X number of pilots on property likely have apps in for legacies and possibly FedEx, UPS. Between either 100 or 150 new jets and attrition, what does the hiring picture look like at HR? Additionally, with all U.S. carriers collectively hiring over 7,000 pilots in 2020 alone, what do you believe will happen with competitive minimums? Are they managed to get their preferred minimums as is today (i.e. 4,000 hours total time in fixed wing aircraft, 1,500 hours in multi-engine, turboprop or jet aircraft, A320 type, undergraduate degree, etc.), or are they hiring at mins (3,000 hours total time in fixed wing aircraft, 1,000 hours in multi-engine aircraft) ... or even sub 3,000 hour pilots? Forecasted to hire 600 this year. Hiring mins are 3000, I have heard of some folks getting in with under 3000 hours. Last year we had 76 folks leave. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
(Post 2957103)
Forecasted to hire 600 this year. Hiring mins are 3000, I have heard of some folks getting in with under 3000 hours.
Last year we had 76 folks leave. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Been out of flying the last few years, 6000 + hours and 4000 + hours jet time. EMB145 and CRJ700 typed. Any thoughts on a chance of getting in with spirit??
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Originally Posted by Babyjetdvr
(Post 2969236)
Been out of flying the last few years, 6000 + hours and 4000 + hours jet time. EMB145 and CRJ700 typed. Any thoughts on a chance of getting in with spirit??
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Originally Posted by Babyjetdvr
(Post 2969236)
Been out of flying the last few years, 6000 + hours and 4000 + hours jet time. EMB145 and CRJ700 typed. Any thoughts on a chance of getting in with spirit??
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Originally Posted by Babyjetdvr
(Post 2969236)
Been out of flying the last few years, 6000 + hours and 4000 + hours jet time. EMB145 and CRJ700 typed. Any thoughts on a chance of getting in with spirit??
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Originally Posted by Babyjetdvr
(Post 2969236)
Been out of flying the last few years, 6000 + hours and 4000 + hours jet time. EMB145 and CRJ700 typed. Any thoughts on a chance of getting in with spirit??
Our training is fast paced and not spoon fed, not something to try with the rust. As others suggest, you’ll need to get current before really any major will touch you. |
What about someone who has been out of a jet for about 8-10months? Still flying regularly, but mostly rotor wing
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Originally Posted by badtransam97
(Post 2969566)
What about someone who has been out of a jet for about 8-10months? Still flying regularly, but mostly rotor wing
In the end, application stack is still high with plenty of currently qualified guys looking for a job, so not sure why they would hire someone who isn’t current. Point blank; this isn’t an entry level job. If you want to work here, prepare for it and not treat it as a currency stepping stone as you would a regional. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2969589)
Only a recruiter can tell you exactly, but again, not being current in an airplane won’t help anyone’s chances in getting hired or passing training without some potential issues.
In the end, application stack is still high with plenty of currently qualified guys looking for a job, so not sure why they would hire someone who isn’t current. Point blank; this isn’t an entry level job. If you want to work here, prepare for it and not treat it as a currency stepping stone as you would a regional. Guess I’ll ask them when I get to the Meet the Chiefs next month. |
Originally Posted by badtransam97
(Post 2969604)
Not looking for a stepping stone by any means..but I wasn’t gonna stay at Atlas when I got an offer to be home more and make more money. With that said, I’d still like to be at Spirit much more than my current spot.
Guess I’ll ask them when I get to the Meet the Chiefs next month. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2969589)
Point blank; this isn’t an entry level job. If you want to work here, prepare for it and not treat it as a currency stepping stone as you would a regional.
(Up there in the simulator) |
what's considered competitive at spirit? been applying for over a year. just curious what times guys have that are getting a call. tib
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3200TT, 1100 TSIC 121, 300 TPIC 121, 1900 AMEL, 2000 PIC
One week from application to phone call, F2F Interview Feb 12 |
Congrats! degree? internal rec?
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I see all kinds of backgrounds and times. Recently flew with a great guy that doesn't have the 4000TT to upgrade! Get your app in and update. Bug them and be ready when Spirit calls.
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3200TT, 1100 TSIC 121, 300 TPIC 121, 1900 AMEL, 2000 PIC
4Yr Ivy League Degree, age 50s, 2nd career, tons of community volunteering (suburban dad), no failures ever no recs, no MTCs, no nothing. One week from application to phone call, F2F Interview Feb 12 Did I say Lucky Lucky Lucky! |
Originally Posted by badtransam97
(Post 2969604)
Not looking for a stepping stone by any means..but I wasn’t gonna stay at Atlas when I got an offer to be home more and make more money. With that said, I’d still like to be at Spirit much more than my current spot.
Guess I’ll ask them when I get to the Meet the Chiefs next month. |
Originally Posted by MidLife
(Post 2971412)
3200TT, 1100 TSIC 121, 300 TPIC 121, 1900 AMEL, 2000 PIC
One week from application to phone call, F2F Interview Feb 12 |
Originally Posted by Macjet
(Post 2971653)
I'd say you're on the high side of experience lately but I could be wrong. Nonetheless welcome and know your flows day one.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2971787)
getting interesting out there for sure. But first year pay, training pay, and no healthcare for 90 days is the company’s problem :rolleyes:
So true, something will end up having to change. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Originally Posted by Macjet
(Post 2971651)
Omin isn't wrong. Any regional right now will retrain you until the cows come home to get you through training. Spirit will can you with 3 retrains. This is not an entry level job even if our hires aren't as polished as Delta. I have a buddy that left AH-64's and is going to SKW to get 'fixed' before looking at anyone flying narrow bodies. We need guys and I'm sure we'd love to have you but make sure that you can get through training first because we give very few second chances.
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I wonder if the tariff-related production delays that has reduced our deliveries for 2020 and 2021 will negatively effect hiring later this year?
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2971787)
no healthcare for 90 days
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Originally Posted by MidLife
(Post 2972000)
Is that right? 90 day wait to start Healthcare?
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How good is the HealthPlan - for a family?
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Originally Posted by MidLife
(Post 2972052)
How good is the HealthPlan - for a family?
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Originally Posted by MidLife
(Post 2972052)
How good is the HealthPlan - for a family?
It’s good. I have the best hmo plan, family of 5 is 580/month Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by flyjbh
(Post 2972161)
It’s good. I have the best hmo plan, family of 5 is 580/month
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 2971964)
I wonder if the tariff-related production delays that has reduced our deliveries for 2020 and 2021 will negatively effect hiring later this year?
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 2972256)
our planes are coming from Alabama plant...
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2972272)
this doesn’t seem to be 100% accurate according to Airbus and Spirit as of today
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2972272)
this doesn’t seem to be 100% accurate according to Airbus and Spirit as of today
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From Ted today regarding a question about the delayed aircraft for 2020 and 2021:
"As noted in our fleet plan, several of our 2020 and 2021 aircraft deliveries have been delayed by several months due to production issues at Airbus, tariff-related delays and additional engine supply issues with Pratt and Whitney. Our previous 2020 capacity and cost guidance incorporated estimates for the impact of these delays." So im not so sure that simply stating "we get them from Alabama," protects us from outside factors mentioned above, because they clearly do not. Ted made is clear that Airbus production delays can have issues beyond 2021... Here is a short article if you dont want to listen to the 1 hour conference call https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN20027Z |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2972337)
From Ted today regarding a question about the delayed aircraft for 2020 and 2021:
"As noted in our fleet plan, several of our 2020 and 2021 aircraft deliveries have been delayed by several months due to production issues at Airbus, tariff-related delays and additional engine supply issues with Pratt and Whitney. Our previous 2020 capacity and cost guidance incorporated estimates for the impact of these delays." So im not so sure that simply stating "we get them from Alabama," protects us from outside factors mentioned above, because they clearly do not. Ted made is clear that Airbus production delays can have issues beyond 2021... Here is a short article if you dont want to listen to the 1 hour conference call https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN20027Z |
This also means that Southwest can't easily get a quick remedy to their single fleet issue with the 320 series through new purchases and would add more fuel to their M&A potential.
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Originally Posted by Macjet
(Post 2972489)
This also means that Southwest can't easily get a quick remedy to their single fleet issue with the 320 series through new purchases and would add more fuel to their M&A potential.
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 2973451)
any M&A would take so long to complete the Max will easily be flying by then.
I wouldn't be surprised if they made a move on someone if there’s another major delay wit returning it to service or another digs a ditch for whatever reason. |
FAA is still in bed with being and the airlines. They are just putting on a show right now. The max will fly this year and won’t be grounded a second time.
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