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5and20 03-12-2020 10:20 AM

Do you have a source about it diminishing

flyjbh 03-12-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by 5and20 (Post 2995621)
Do you have a source about it diminishing


https://khn.org/morning-breakout/som...gone-for-good/

flyjbh 03-12-2020 10:31 AM

Good sign or not? Just had a friend tell me that the MTC scheduled for later this month was moved to a video chat. They are keeping the plan so far.

mainlineAF 03-12-2020 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2995635)



There’s no evidence to assume this will ‘burn out’ when the temps rise.

SpeedTaped 03-12-2020 10:48 AM

When’s the hiring freeze begin? How deep will the cuts go? -30% is not sustainable.

TrojanCMH 03-12-2020 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 2995668)
When’s the hiring freeze begin? How deep will the cuts go? -30% is not sustainable.



Where did you get the 30%?

daOldMan 03-12-2020 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2995687)
Where did you get the 30%?

Spirit (SAVE) stock fell 30% today. Worst in the industry. Under $15/share now.

SpeedTaped 03-12-2020 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2995687)
Where did you get the 30%?

New York Stock Exchange.

Spirit down more than any other. -30%

TrojanCMH 03-12-2020 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2995690)
Spirit (SAVE) stock fell 30% today. Worst in the industry. Under $15/share now.



Gotcha. Thought you were talking about 30% drop in future bookings.


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SpeedTaped 03-12-2020 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2995713)
Gotcha. Thought you were talking about 30% drop in future bookings.


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I would bet the booking drop is at least that or more.

DrSteveBrule 03-12-2020 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 2995714)
I would bet the booking drop is at least that or more.

One of the articles out there says summertime domestic bookings are down 20 to 40 percent varying on the market.

flyjbh 03-12-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2995660)
There’s no evidence to assume this will ‘burn out’ when the temps rise.


There’s no evidence to not assume that it will burn out. They don’t know


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mainlineAF 03-12-2020 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2995814)
There’s no evidence to not assume that it will burn out. They don’t know


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True. But MERS was a similar Coronavirus and it originated in areas with temperatures well over 100*.

senecacaptain 03-12-2020 01:20 PM

there is no evidence to assume anything

preliminary data indicates it is similar to the flu, and that there is an air quality/pollution, and possibly cigarrette smoker, connection of some sort, for those who died.

nludy 03-12-2020 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 2995831)
there is no evidence to assume anything

preliminary data indicates it is similar to the flu, and that there is an air quality/pollution, and possibly cigarrette smoker, connection of some sort, for those who died.

Tell that to Italy.

senecacaptain 03-12-2020 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by nludy (Post 2996103)
Tell that to Italy.

I think they know

https://www.ozy.com/acumen/why-do-it...so-much/86237/

https://tobaccoatlas.org/country/italy/

https://www.lifegate.com/people/news...ion-europe-eea

Excargodog 03-12-2020 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by nludy (Post 2996103)
Tell that to Italy.


https://i.ibb.co/QH25SvV/523-FE8-E0-...8351201697.jpg

TrojanCMH 03-12-2020 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 2995714)
I would bet the booking drop is at least that or more.



I wouldn’t be surprised if it was, but again no numbers from the people running the show. Are we down 20% or 40%? Huge spread. 20% is probably manageable with some network tweaking, 40% probably calls for more drastic measures... but who knows what they’re seeing.


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LandGreen 03-12-2020 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2995814)
There’s no evidence to not assume that it will burn out. They don’t know


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aside from the fact that they are having outbreaks in Australia on the Gold Coast and it is literally 80 degrees and summer down there...

RemoveB4flght 03-13-2020 06:42 AM

For those on the outside waiting

CEO email today, we will continue to hire crew to support growth, but hiring and training will be continually reviewed and adjusted as needed.

Could be a lot more negative, any intake is good intake.

flyjbh 03-13-2020 06:51 AM

I thought it sounded pretty reasonable and overall a good approach. This will pass and if we look at life after corona we could be in a good position to excel


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Sunrig 03-14-2020 11:53 AM

According to an email to instructors and checkairmen starting in April there will be 8 new hires per week instead of the planned 16. March classes are unchanged.

SpeedTaped 03-14-2020 12:22 PM

”No additional new hire positions will be offered.”

NKSpilot 03-14-2020 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 2998139)
”No additional new hire positions will be offered.”

Who said that?

CAirBear 03-14-2020 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 2998156)
Who said that?

Just a guess, but i think he was quoting that instructor email maybe?

If they cut April in half, it would make sense that they might stop hiring in May. Who knows for sure.

Ultimately when all the BS is over with, there is almost zero indication that people aren’t going to fly again.

This country is addicted to travel. You really think people are going to start driving 18 hours to go visit friends/family and take trips? I mean really?

Of course all the “financial gurus” on here believe we are going to have some massive recession now, worse than 2008 after its all said and done. There isn’t any evidence this is going to happen. If signs point to it, then we evaluate what it means for us.

2 weeks ago, travel was fine and humming along. Then the media did their BS and it is what it is now.

When it passes, which it will, then things should resume.

Ive been out and about this weekend at home. Malls are busy, restaurants are busy. People are living their lives where I live. They aren’t holed up in their homes.

Worry about the “no one will ever fly again” when we have actual evidence that seems to be the case. Until then, there isn’t any that suggest we are all going to start traveling by train and car for the rest of our lives.

korg128 03-14-2020 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2998172)
2 weeks ago, travel was fine and humming along. Then the media did their BS and it is what it is now.

It is what it is now because the virus has spread exponentially. That's just science. Trump on the other hand said 2 weeks ago it was contained. Now he just got tested. That's the BS not the media that has to report facts convenient or not.
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Anyways I wouldn't discount science and the reality of the matter for a second. Science is what makes planes takeoff remember?
I will agree with you though that the country is addicted to travel and to compare this with a 2008 breakdown in actual financial pricing/derivatives etc would be incorrect.

ASAPsafetyGUY 03-14-2020 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 2998156)
Who said that?

It's in the same email he is quoting.

Soldier64 03-14-2020 05:00 PM

March classes unchanged.

8 new hires per week for April and May.

No additional hiring for June as of right now, but they will continue to interview and put applicants into a “pool” for class dates once we resume training. All of this is subject to change daily, of course.

I wasn’t going to post this but I feel people are cherry picking lines from the email to post the worst case scenario. It’s not good, but it’s definitely better than it could be right now.

NKSpilot 03-14-2020 05:30 PM

Thank you. Seems like it would be nice if this type of info is disseminated to line pilots normally. Why the secrets?

Super EZ E 03-14-2020 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 2998139)
”No additional new hire positions will be offered.”

He knows nothing! Fake news! 100% forget people like this. Nothing has come out of the school house or management.

yh308 03-14-2020 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2998448)
He knows nothing! Fake news! 100% forget people like this. Nothing has come out of the school house or management.

Nothing official has come out from management. Rumors are from check airmen saying they received an email that starting April hiring will be reduced to 8 per week instead of the original planned 16 per week. That’s all I’ve heard. Nothing about hiring stopping in June. I heard it directly from a check airman and feel like he would have mentioned hiring stopping in June. Who knows though.

SpeedTaped 03-14-2020 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2998448)
He knows nothing! Fake news! 100% forget people like this. Nothing has come out of the school house or management.


100% factual quoted from the email.

Your view and vantage on what is about to happen in the industry is askew. Prepare! It is happening much to all of our dismay.

Vectorss 03-16-2020 07:59 AM

Spirit App is nowhere to be found
 
Hey guys,

Last week I submitted my application to Spirit, took the Gallup Assessment, and the application said it was under review. This morning my application is nowhere to be found and it states that I have not submitted my profile to any jobs. Also the First Officer Job Ad is gone as well. Has Spirit stopped taking in applications?

Thank you

Pgus 03-16-2020 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Vectorss (Post 3000157)
Hey guys,

Last week I submitted my application to Spirit, took the Gallup Assessment, and the application said it was under review. This morning my application is nowhere to be found and it states that I have not submitted my profile to any jobs. Also the First Officer Job Ad is gone as well. Has Spirit stopped taking in applications?

Thank you

I won’t be surprised, hang in there.

5and20 03-16-2020 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Vectorss (Post 3000157)
Hey guys,

Last week I submitted my application to Spirit, took the Gallup Assessment, and the application said it was under review. This morning my application is nowhere to be found and it states that I have not submitted my profile to any jobs. Also the First Officer Job Ad is gone as well. Has Spirit stopped taking in applications?

Thank you

Dude there is credible talk of national airspace shutdown. All major airlines will most likely furlough and there will be no hiring for a long time.

DrSteveBrule 03-16-2020 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by 5and20 (Post 3000309)
Dude there is credible talk of national airspace shutdown. All major airlines will most likely furlough and there will be no hiring for a long time.

Just like the 2000s, age 67 here we come.

badtransam97 03-16-2020 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule (Post 3000312)
Just like the 2000s, age 67 here we come.

When we finally think we’re getting a break in the industry...another kick in the nuts to bring things back to reality 🥴

Green Giant 03-16-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule (Post 3000312)
Just like the 2000s, age 67 here we come.

Most Likely be age 77. Just what I need. This sucks all the way around.

SAROVA 03-16-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by yh308 (Post 2998542)
Nothing official has come out from management. Rumors are from check airmen saying they received an email that starting April hiring will be reduced to 8 per week instead of the original planned 16 per week. That’s all I’ve heard. Nothing about hiring stopping in June. I heard it directly from a check airman and feel like he would have mentioned hiring stopping in June. Who knows though.

That would be correct. Got a call from HR, she said exactly that. I think they are concerned people wont show up for class.

symbian simian 03-16-2020 01:15 PM

  • Our April schedule has been adjusted, with flights reduced.
  • Pilot new hire classes will still be held in April but will be smaller than originally planned. All further classes are cancelled.
  • Furloughs are not currently planned, but a reduction may be necessary depending on how the situation develops in the coming days and weeks.


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