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CincoDeMayo 09-03-2020 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 3121977)
Um, it did.

Haha. God help us all. I turned it off with 20 minutes to go.

week 09-03-2020 08:10 PM

Could be worse, my last airline we phoned in questions. Had a senior FA ask if they would open a SNA hub so she wouldn’t have to drive to our base in LAX. Sometimes we spent 5 minutes of the call having the COO explain to the senior FA’s how to print out their pairings :D

TransWorld 09-03-2020 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3121996)
Could be worse, my last airline we phoned in questions. Had a senior FA ask if they would open a SNA hub so she wouldn’t have to drive to our base in LAX. Sometimes we spent 5 minutes of the call having the COO explain to the senior FA’s how to print out their pairings :D

Did she say she didn’t know that she could print out pairings, or how to run a computer?

Av8rPHX 09-03-2020 10:51 PM

No Furloughs
 

Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3122014)
Did she say she didn’t know that she could print out pairings, or how to run a computer?



I particularly liked the FAs who wanted to know where the “job well done” cards were filed...we assumed the filing cabinet was cylindrical in shape. On the pairings...it was always the fonts being too small for the MSP Mamas to read

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VIRotate 09-04-2020 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3122028)
I particularly liked the FAs who wanted to know where the “job well done” cards were filed...we assumed the filing cabinet was cylindrical in shape. On the pairings...it was always the fonts being too small for the MSP Mamas to read

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I'll miss hearing Dottie's life story every call.

Bike Handles 09-04-2020 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3121996)
Could be worse, my last airline we phoned in questions. Had a senior FA ask if they would open a SNA hub so she wouldn’t have to drive to our base in LAX. Sometimes we spent 5 minutes of the call having the COO explain to the senior FA’s how to print out their pairings :D

I miss playing phone call Bingo.

Qotsaautopilot 09-04-2020 10:18 AM

It’s not just us but if you are a large corporations that employs mostly people that work at $10/hr what kind or questions would you expect. Imagine Walmart has a company wide call.

CincoDeMayo 09-04-2020 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 3122200)
It’s not just us but if you are a large corporations that employs mostly people that work at $10/hr what kind or questions would you expect. Imagine Walmart has a company wide call.

Stupid runs deep even beyond the $10/hr employees.

I would love to know the job title of who suggested we "raise our ticket prices" in order to have "classier" passengers on the planes, which will reduce the number of gate returns for unruly passengers. Ted had a nice answer to that, a polite way of saying "cheap airfare is who we are, who we will always be, and what pays the bills."

Meep 09-04-2020 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3122282)
Stupid runs deep even beyond the $10/hr employees.

I would love to know the job title of who suggested we "raise our ticket prices" in order to have "classier" passengers on the planes, which will reduce the number of gate returns for unruly passengers. Ted had a nice answer to that, a polite way of saying "cheap airfare is who we are, who we will always be, and what pays the bills."

Last I checked two Delta passengers got on a flight on the jet bridge and American had a fight between passengers on the airplane. Not just limited to NK....weird times!

CincoDeMayo 09-04-2020 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3122432)
Last I checked two Delta passengers got on a flight on the jet bridge and American had a fight between passengers on the airplane. Not just limited to NK....weird times!

Exactly my point.

flyboy94 09-04-2020 09:02 PM

I remember asking questions during those phone conferences thinking management actually had the answers but really only Hulas had the answers. Really glad to be out and free from TSH!

MainlineorSuici 09-05-2020 08:31 PM

My favorite (TSH) company call was the one where a guy fell asleep and snored through the entire thing. They couldn’t figure out to mute him, eventually just carried out the meeting with the snoring in the background

Av8rPHX 09-05-2020 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Bike Handles (Post 3122097)
I miss playing phone call Bingo.



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MainlineorSuici 09-05-2020 08:37 PM

https://i.imgur.com/bkGF1cB.jpg

TransWorld 09-05-2020 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by MainlineorSuici (Post 3122894)

Snoring was a mysterious background noise. And the snoring was on an unmuted phone. That’s a double winner.

Lucifer 09-06-2020 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Meep (Post 3122432)
Last I checked two Delta passengers got on a flight on the jet bridge and American had a fight between passengers on the airplane. Not just limited to NK....weird times!

Fee will; it's a b#$ch....

CincoDeMayo 09-06-2020 06:23 AM

Attention Ex Trans States and Compass pilots

Yes, Spirit is better than your regional, even the conference calls.

“Remember when is the lowest form of conversation”
-Tony Soprano

sioux8ships 09-06-2020 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3122968)
Attention Ex Trans States and Compass pilots

Yes, Spirit is better than your regional, even the conference calls.

“Remember when is the lowest form of conversation”
-Tony Soprano

Yup, seriously.... “this one time at Compass”.

Now if you’re from Skywest.. this doesn’t apply.

week 09-06-2020 09:46 AM

TSA numbers are up!

acecrackshot 09-08-2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3123083)
TSA numbers are up!

With the Compass and Hulas references earlier, I don't know if this is an independent hopeful assertion, or a cheeky reference to a bye-gone carrier.

Either way, well played.

ASAPsafetyGUY 09-08-2020 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3123083)
TSA numbers are up!

Unfortunately NK numbers arent. AA and Delta picking up.

CincoDeMayo 09-09-2020 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 3124633)
Unfortunately NK numbers arent. AA and Delta picking up.

Last week Spirit posted revised Q3 guidance saying that their yields are better than anticipated and their cash burn will be at the lower end of the 3-4mil a day estimate that was estimated previously


“Based on management’s current expectations and assumptions developed from current trends and information available at this time, Spirit estimates its third quarter 2020 operating revenue will be slightly better than the Company’s initial guidance due to management’s expectations of higher operating yields.

Management also estimates that total operating expenses for the third quarter 2020, excluding special items, will improve as compared to the Company’s previous guidance. This expected improvement is based upon an expectation of lower labor expense as a result of more team members participating in voluntary time off programs, lower than expected maintenance expense driven by an expectation of fewer maintenance events, and other cost management initiatives.

As of the date hereof, the Company currently expects its average daily cash burn1 for the third quarter 2020 will come in at the lower end of the Company’s guidance range given in late July of $3 to $4 million.”

So this seems good to me. They are participating in an industry conference call today and hopefully will add more color

week 09-09-2020 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 3124633)
Unfortunately NK numbers arent. AA and Delta picking up.

words are just words, with proof or evidence

Halon1211 09-10-2020 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by week (Post 3123083)
TSA numbers are up!

not up enough at the Plattsburgh airport.

https://www.wcax.com/2020/09/08/spir...n-plattsburgh/

putzin 09-10-2020 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3125763)
not up enough at the Plattsburgh airport.

https://www.wcax.com/2020/09/08/spir...n-plattsburgh/

Gateway to Canada, not surprising considering the restrictions.

CAirBear 09-10-2020 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3125763)
not up enough at the Plattsburgh airport.

https://www.wcax.com/2020/09/08/spir...n-plattsburgh/

When the border is open, and stays open, it will
be back. I honestly have zero clue wtf it took us this long. Maybe we were forced to as a route because of CAREs money, but I did a MYR-PBG-MYR back in July. 13 going and 10
coming back. Again, zero surprise with the border closed.

Qotsaautopilot 09-10-2020 02:10 PM

CARES requirement. That ends in a few weeks

SSlow 09-10-2020 02:27 PM

While this problem is not unique to Spirit, it is certainly annoying. My brother bought tickets on us for early October only to have them completely cancel that route with no other option. Had another family member book on us for vacation and they have already changed the flight times twice, with them having to stay an extra day to catch the flight back home. Granted this is just on Spirit, but I'm sure it is similar across the board on other airlines. October is about to bring a whole new level of pain and confusion unfortunately.

gatorbird 09-11-2020 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3126352)
While this problem is not unique to Spirit, it is certainly annoying. My brother bought tickets on us for early October only to have them completely cancel that route with no other option. Had another family member book on us for vacation and they have already changed the flight times twice, with them having to stay an extra day to catch the flight back home. Granted this is just on Spirit, but I'm sure it is similar across the board on other airlines. October is about to bring a whole new level of pain and confusion unfortunately.

So the airlines are supposed to keep flying magnificently unprofitable routes at the convenience of the flying public, all the while the CARES funding dries up? C’mon man, that ain’t how capitalism works. I guess next we should consider re-regulating?

CincoDeMayo 09-11-2020 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 3127132)
So the airlines are supposed to keep flying magnificently unprofitable routes at the convenience of the flying public, all the while the CARES funding dries up? C’mon man, that ain’t how capitalism works. I guess next we should consider re-regulating?

Did you just use “CARES” and “Capitalism” in the same thought? Haha. Too funny

Halon1211 09-11-2020 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3127173)
Did you just use “CARES” and “Capitalism” in the same thought? Haha. Too funny

well to be fair he did says when it “dries up” aka stops. So yes when the socialism stop on Sept. 30th we revert back to capitalism and have to be efficient again.

Stryker172 09-11-2020 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3127260)
well to be fair he did says when it “dries up” aka stops. So yes when the socialism stop on Sept. 30th we revert back to capitalism and have to be efficient again.

Thats the problem with socialism isn't it. You always seem to run out of other peoples money.

Halon1211 09-11-2020 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker172 (Post 3127295)
Thats the problem with socialism isn't it. You always seem to run out of other peoples money.

yes, very true.

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spirited 09-12-2020 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Stryker172 (Post 3127295)
Thats the problem with socialism isn't it. You always seem to run out of other peoples money.

Interesting when people say government money, or government bail-out. The Government has no money, except what they take from people - the "other" people.

SSlow 09-12-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 3127132)
So the airlines are supposed to keep flying magnificently unprofitable routes at the convenience of the flying public, all the while the CARES funding dries up? C’mon man, that ain’t how capitalism works. I guess next we should consider re-regulating?

So that's what you got out of my post? I just stated that the frustration is about to get real in October. I never said anything about the airlines flying unprofitable routes solely to please the general public. C'mon man, don't be ridiculous.

gatorbird 09-12-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Stryker172 (Post 3127295)
Thats the problem with socialism isn't it. You always seem to run out of other peoples money.

Thatcher quote for the win!

gatorbird 09-12-2020 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3127452)
So that's what you got out of my post? I just stated that the frustration is about to get real in October. I never said anything about the airlines flying unprofitable routes solely to please the general public. C'mon man, don't be ridiculous.

Well if I’m being honest, yes. That’s precisely what I got out of your post.

TransWorld 09-12-2020 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 3127676)
Thatcher quote for the win!

Bingo. . . .

69fastback 09-13-2020 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by spirited (Post 3127342)
interesting when people say government money, or government bail-out. The government has no money, except what they take from people - the "other" people.

🤦‍♂️...............

DrSteveBrule 09-13-2020 09:32 AM

'Take money' as decided by the freely and fairly elected representatives of our republic, as defined in the articles within the Constitution, of course.


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