Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3542633)

That doesn't even make sense. I believe that FLL is still the most junior CA base, so any involuntary downgrades would hit there first.

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3542544)

I love this defense mechanism. Like how Spirit pilots used to say “yeah, but we are recession proof” and “yeah, but we will see who survives with $150 oil”. Shocker, they did quite better than we did and are profitable, as we are not.

So if anyone is “hire to they furlough,” it’s Spirit, not a legacy.

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3542678)

Thats how it works in my head as well. The only "involuntary" would be if they didnt want to be displaced as a CA to a junior base, but thats not an involuntary downgrade as he claimed.

Originally Posted by gomissedagain (Post 3541688)

Please elaborate further on you’re seemingly snarky post. You have a problem with me as a potential applicant not wanting to come to your airline because I have self respect and know what I’m worth and my regional paid me full guarantee during training which was a lot more than Spirit? Like the other poster said I’m not thrilled with taking a pay cut. It’s called handling my finances like an adult.

Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3541782)

I’m so happy you stopped by to solicit your advice when you don’t even follow it

Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 3542797)

it technically would be involuntary if you didn’t have all bases listed for CA.

Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 3542872)

Previous junior CA = #2072
After-bid junior CA = #2030

You can only bump people junior to you. We don't have super seniority displacement rights in the CBA. Apparently some more senior people decided to take upgrades and some bottom CAs got bumped out.

Junior CA hire date just went from 11/25/2019 to 10/21/2019.

The reality is that upgrade time just increased and Spirit has CAs being downgraded to FO.
This whole displacement bid situation is completely absurd for a growing airline.

Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3541782)

I’m so happy you stopped by to solicit your advice when you don’t even follow it

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3541814)

As of now there’s no reason to raise training pay. Classes are full at 30 people per class weekly. If that can continue remains to be seen. I’m sure there’s less regional applicants but they have shown they are willing to take cfis off the street. Classes also have probably on average 85-90% show rate with at most only a couple people deciding not to show. They are easily pumping 100 people through training each month right now. So they don’t have as big of a problem attracting people. If you can’t stomach taking a pay cut to get further ahead it’ll be nightly tough to leave your regional as a captain making $250k per year just to drop down to to 90k per year at a legacy. In the industry rarely if ever can you get ahead financially without taking a temporary cut.