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Excargodog 12-28-2022 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3550730)
From what I've heard management is deeply traumatized by the meltdowns and is afraid of maxing out utilization out of fear of another.

ithink the real issue is that they are deeply traumatized by going into a negotiation where - for once - the leverage is disproportionally on the side of the pilots and neither the RLA nor the courts are likely to be able to change that for them. Their smartest move would probably be to make a more generous offer to the pilots with the bulk of it back-loaded so it becomes Jet Blue’s liability, then pour money into IT and schedulers that can work all the new more fuel efficient aircraft 14 hours a day even if it requires a higher red eye premium.

JulesWinfield 12-28-2022 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3560957)
ithink the real issue is that they are deeply traumatized by going into a negotiation where - for once - the leverage is disproportionally on the side of the pilots and neither the RLA nor the courts are likely to be able to change that for them. Their smartest move would probably be to make a more generous offer to the pilots with the bulk of it back-loaded so it becomes Jet Blue’s liability, then pour money into IT and schedulers that can work all the new more fuel efficient aircraft 14 hours a day even if it requires a higher red eye premium.

Hahaha. Spirit is actually cutting their IT budget next year, according to the road show. Classic spirit.

baseball3792 12-28-2022 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3560957)
ithink the real issue is that they are deeply traumatized by going into a negotiation where - for once - the leverage is disproportionally on the side of the pilots and neither the RLA nor the courts are likely to be able to change that for them. Their smartest move would probably be to make a more generous offer to the pilots with the bulk of it back-loaded so it becomes Jet Blue’s liability, then pour money into IT and schedulers that can work all the new more fuel efficient aircraft 14 hours a day even if it requires a higher red eye premium.

Just because itd be smart doesn’t mean it’s what they’d do.

Bluedriver 12-28-2022 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3560966)
Hahaha. Spirit is actually cutting their IT budget next year, according to the road show. Classic spirit.

Probably see no reason to invest in long term tools for a short term airline. 😁

CincoDeMayo 12-28-2022 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3560957)
ithink the real issue is that they are deeply traumatized by going into a negotiation where - for once - the leverage is disproportionally on the side of the pilots and neither the RLA nor the courts are likely to be able to change that for them. Their smartest move would probably be to make a more generous offer to the pilots with the bulk of it back-loaded so it becomes Jet Blue’s liability, then pour money into IT and schedulers that can work all the new more fuel efficient aircraft 14 hours a day even if it requires a higher red eye premium.

You’re clueless.

You think Ted has the ability to backload a contract for the pilots, and JetBlue doesn’t have a say?

Bump up IT? Do you know how long this company hasn’t even been able to get a single login completed? And you think with their $0 IT increases next year they get that done, and “bump up IT”? They can’t even get schedulers to come back to the office because they have threatened to quit ant Spirit can afford to let them go, and can’t afford to give them raises apparently either.

Higher red eye premiums? The company announced red eyes will make up 30% of flying next year. Boom, they just made it happen. So now you think the company is going to come back and offer a higher red eye premium when they can make schedules how they see fit, only limited by CBA, 117 and fatigue calls.

Irishblackbird 12-28-2022 10:08 AM

I'm curious to see if the MEC/ and NC will continue emailing attrition numbers now that we have a TA on the table. It'll be real interesting to see the effects on attrition/hiring in the upcoming months.

Avro85 12-28-2022 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3560966)
Hahaha. Spirit is actually cutting their IT budget next year, according to the road show. Classic spirit.

Seems to work for WN.

BlueSideUp85 12-28-2022 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Avro85 (Post 3561300)
Seems to work for WN.

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PossibleDeviation 01-04-2023 08:55 AM

63 new hires and 42 gone in December. 3 captains and 39 FOs.

RiddleEagle18 01-04-2023 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3564848)
63 new hires and 42 gone in December. 3 captains and 39 FOs.


JB

30 gone.

28 FO’s
2 CA retirements.


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