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Originally Posted by Skycap876 (Post 3367530)

Indigo partners has been on a mission to dominate the ULCC market. The Frontier executive culture is not in favor of many of Spirit's labor agreements.
I would expect with F9 holding a controlling interest, their will be some very difficult Union integration discussions particularly issues such as scheduling.

F9 management does not want a scheduling flexibility program like that at NK and I would not be surprised if they refuse to adopt such amongst both unions unless both unions come together strong and demand it is preserved.

As far as the upgrades and growth/movement potential, I don't know that it will have much benefit in the near term. It may take upwards of one to three years for a full integration and operational synergies to be established.

Going to be very interesting.

You need a CBA prior to an integrated seniority list. So if the new management wants to play “hard ball”’on scheduling, it delays the SLI, which delays those operational synergies you speak about

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Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 3367535)

It may not be popular, but as an F9 guy l Look forward to this. I have always been treated great by spirit crews. Seems like two like minded pilot groups that I will be proud to stand with.

Ditto. From a long-term standpoint, I am happy to hear this news.

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Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3367522)

Record time for losing a bet? Yeah, it's not Ted. Already been reported Franke will head the new board. As far as HQ and training, you may be right. Florida makes sense.

The CNBC article says Franke will be the chair, but the CEO is still to be determined.

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Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3367522)

Record time for losing a bet? Yeah, it's not Ted. Already been reported Franke will head the new board. As far as HQ and training, you may be right. Florida makes sense.

I just heard all 3 on CNBC 30 minutes ago. They were all
asked who CEO would be . They said they have no answer to announce . So unless that changed In 30 minutes I still like Teds chances

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Originally Posted by TheMagentaLine (Post 3367533)

So.. should I not attend my MTC event tomorrow?

yes. Unless you don’t want to work for a i airline

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Originally Posted by TheMagentaLine (Post 3367533)

So.. should I not attend my MTC event tomorrow?

Definitely go. It's not a done deal yet, as it still needs federal approval. It will take years for the merger to fully happen.

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3367546)

Definitely go. It's not a done deal yet, as it still needs federal approval. It will take years for the merger to fully happen.

DOJ not withstanding I’d imagine it could proceed much faster than mergers of the past. We’re much more similar than different internally.

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Originally Posted by TheMagentaLine (Post 3367533)

So.. should I not attend my MTC event tomorrow?

if you’re serious with this question then yes. Skip it.

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Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre (Post 3367547)

DOJ not withstanding I’d imagine it could proceed much faster than mergers of the past. We’re much more similar than different internally.

Agree, same fleet type and nearly identical business models. This will go quicker than any in the past.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3367499)

Both pilot groups are ALPA so that should help.

That is in the eye of the beholder. ALPA sucks and will look out for their best interest only