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2022: Year of the Spirit Stepping Stone

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02-12-2022 | 12:31 PM

#41

CLE to IAH

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Originally Posted by Cyio

I will be there.

same.

filler

02-12-2022 | 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

At a ULCC you can make over $250k a year while only working half the month. Plus you can easily hit the IRS limits on your 401k retiring with millions in the bank. Sounds like a great career to me.

I suppose some of us do, I made $203k last year as a 5/6 year reserve CA…not good these days. Also, that’s with only 12/13 days off a month.

02-12-2022 | 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfflife

I suppose some of us do, I made $203k last year as a 5/6 year reserve CA…not good these days. Also, that’s with only 12/13 days off a month.

Sloped pay scale that somehow got in the last contract...Again.

02-12-2022 | 03:03 PM

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Sloped pay scale that somehow got in the last contract...Again.

Yep, when the people negotiating it are at the top of the scale I don’t think it’s really focused on. This is the third contract now it’s been like that? Even with it sloped it’s still not easy to make $250k as described.

02-12-2022 | 03:40 PM

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From: to-go plate at hotel buffet

My pay in 2021 felt like that joke from before C2018 when we said our captains already make legacy pay, legacy FO pay.

02-14-2022 | 09:39 AM

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SPA MEC’s contract comparison product was very well-done, however, with everyone else heavily into Section 6, we’re basically comparing ourselves to old or even bankruptcy contracts.

02-14-2022 | 01:02 PM

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SPA MEC’s contract comparison product was very well-done, however, with everyone else heavily into Section 6, we’re basically comparing ourselves to old or even bankruptcy contracts.

I think most folks understand that it’s a current comparison to other current contracts and that those numbers will change going forward as everyone is in negotiations. Any contract that only beats other current contracts is a failure. You have to meet or exceed the new round to have anything worth voting on.

02-14-2022 | 05:22 PM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by dualinput

I remember the Contract Comparison we had before the 2018 contract. Every changed. It was before the Legacy carriers got their raises.

02-14-2022 | 07:48 PM

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Corrected for inflation our DOS+4 rates are more than 2% lower than DOS rates.

02-14-2022 | 08:11 PM

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Corrected for inflation our DOS+4 rates are more than 2% lower than DOS rates.

Well, with 7.5% inflation you need a CPI index in there just to stay even.

You know, the two managements have been plotting this for years. I hope NK and F9 ALPA reps have already had a meeting or two to plot strategy for the JCBA. Both groups need to be in lockstep on the demands, or they will get played off against each other by management.