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MCDUmanipulator 08-17-2022 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by forea013 (Post 3479169)
Im in dallas as well.. Start date Oct 3rd... Maybe I can convince my wife to move to Florida... sucks to hear about dfw though...

florida bases will soon be flooded by jet blue pilots.

king10pin02 08-17-2022 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3479179)
florida bases will soon be flooded by jet blue pilots.

2+ years isnt soon

Halon1211 08-17-2022 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3479179)
florida bases will soon be flooded by jet blue pilots.


also won’t there be a “fence” for a few years after the merger is complete like they have done for Other airline mergers in the past

and even if there isn’t a fence, can you still be displaced out of your base? That’s an honest question, I really don’t know… I thought the only way you could be involuntarily displaced out of your base is if there was a displacement bid or Company decides to close a base?

Mainline Mulier 08-17-2022 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3479198)
also won’t there be a “fence” for a few years after the merger is complete like they have done for Other airline mergers in the past

and even if there isn’t a fence, can you still be displaced out of your base? That’s an honest question, I really don’t know… I thought the only way you could be involuntarily displaced out of your base is if there was a displacement bid or Company decides to close a base?

Fences are for widebodies. JB and Spirits fly the same airplane out of the same airport. Won’t be any fences.

Bluedriver 08-17-2022 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3479198)
also won’t there be a “fence” for a few years after the merger is complete like they have done for Other airline mergers in the past

and even if there isn’t a fence, can you still be displaced out of your base? That’s an honest question, I really don’t know… I thought the only way you could be involuntarily displaced out of your base is if there was a displacement bid or Company decides to close a base?

You'd have to have a displacement bid or a bump and flush to be kicked out of MCO/FLL. And... There will NOT be a displacement bid or bump and flush for MCO/FLL.

Just my opinion, but I'd put money on that.

Fah2 08-18-2022 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3479384)
You'd have to have a displacement bid or a bump and flush to be kicked out of MCO/FLL. And... There will NOT be a displacement bid or bump and flush for MCO/FLL.

Just my opinion, but I'd put money on that.

I’m not sure you realize just how many pilots NK has in those two bases, and how many more there would be if the reduction bid had gone through.

Still waiting on my morning coffee to brew but pretty sure you were the guy railing on about how saturated the NK market to Florida is when you were on here beating your Blue drum prior to the F9 decision, and that we have squeezed all the business we could out of it.

Now you are putting money that after eliminating domestic and international overlap on routes that don’t need the double frequencies, and B6 canning all the NK routes of unsophisticated Florida bound people you claim won’t make money…. That B6 will suddenly discover troves of discerning and affluent new replacement routes because, I dunno JetBlue effect, and FLL and MCO will grow exponentially (compared to your current staffing)?

Could happen, but you might want to hold on to your money

Cyio 08-18-2022 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3479519)
I’m not sure you realize just how many pilots NK has in those two bases, and how many more there would be if the reduction bid had gone through.

Still waiting on my morning coffee to brew but pretty sure you were the guy railing on about how saturated the NK market to Florida is when you were on here beating your Blue drum prior to the F9 decision, and that we have squeezed all the business we could out of it.

Now you are putting money that after eliminating domestic and international overlap on routes that don’t need the double frequencies, and B6 canning all the NK routes of unsophisticated Florida bound people you claim won’t make money…. That B6 will suddenly discover troves of discerning and affluent new replacement routes because, I dunno JetBlue effect, and FLL and MCO will grow exponentially (compared to your current staffing)?

Could happen, but you might want to hold on to your money

I kind of like you pre-coffee lol

Halon1211 08-19-2022 06:49 AM

I could be wrong but I honestly don’t think they will completely close down DFW I think it will just shrink for now.

if they were truly going to close DFW I don’t think they would’ve went ahead and replaced the chief pilot there.

onedolla 08-19-2022 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3480176)
I could be wrong but I honestly don’t think they will completely close down DFW I think it will just shrink for now.

if they were truly going to close DFW I don’t think they would’ve went ahead and replaced the chief pilot there.

Since I have absolutely no clue how the process works, is it a complicated thing to replace a chief pilot? Lots of training or company resources involved?

Flyby1206 08-19-2022 09:35 AM

There will be a ton of FLL/MCO crews. I do agree with BD though and think they will avoid displacements and instead run a lot of trips originating in FLL/MCO through other bases. I would expect the seniority progression to become very stagnant in FLL/MCO once the companies combine.

NK
53 ACY CA
43 ACY FO
203 DFW CA
166 DFW FO
189 DTW CA
161 DTW FO
425 FLL CA
341 FLL FO
220 LAS CA
168 LAS FO
250 MCO CA
224 MCO FO
217 ORD CA
153 ORD FO
252 Undesignated FO

JB
88 BOS 220 CA
112 BOS 220 FO
374 BOS 320 CA
388 BOS 320 FO
232 BOS 190 CA
249 BOS 190 FO
41 EWR 320 CA
44 EWR 320 FO
330 FLL 320 CA
327 FLL 320 FO
680 JFK 320 CA
724 JFK 320 FO
120 JFK 190 CA
141 JFK 190 FO
155 LAX 320 CA
159 LAX 320 FO
97 MCO 320 CA
122 MCO 320 FO
64 MCO 190 CA
74 MCO 190 FO


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