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I think the maintenance hangar it’s referring to is the one going to be in IAH. No way AAL would allow Spirit to get/build a maintenance hangar in DFW.
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We already have a maintenance facility in DFw. There just is no hangar there. But that’s where all our new engineless NEOs go to get their engines changed out. There’s two fairly new NEOs there missing engines.
the second hangar is in Houston the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT. |
Originally Posted by bruhaha
(Post 3459280)
We already have a maintenance facility in DFw. There just is no hangar there. But that’s where all our new engineless NEOs go to get their engines changed out. There’s two fairly new NEOs there missing engines.
the second hangar is in Houston the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT. |
Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3459298)
it says the 2nd spirit hangar is in iah, first is in dtw. doesnt say anything about adding a new hangar
“SAT is adding to our ever-growing footprint with more flights to the Lonestar State, joining Austin (AUS), Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and Houston (IAH), home to our new aircraft maintenance facility that includes our second hangar.” IAH and DTW hangar Everywhere else, outside. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3459326)
Exactly. It’s pretty clear
“SAT is adding to our ever-growing footprint with more flights to the Lonestar State, joining Austin (AUS), Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and Houston (IAH), home to our new aircraft maintenance facility that includes our second hangar.” IAH and DTW hangar Everywhere else, outside. |
Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
(Post 3455846)
The biggest problem with NK in places like DFW/DTW/ORD (which we are currently reducing) is that NK simply cannot demand a higher priced ticket. Take DFW for example, AA will simply closely match our pricing on routes we both operate. AA can do this both as a loss leader and as a subsidy where those losses can be made up somewhere else in their system. AA calls NK "The Weed" at their HQs. As a passenger shopping for a fare, when the pricing on a third party site has AA and NK closely priced, almost always a person is going to choose AA. Whether or not their product really is that much better than ours, and we know its not necessarily, a regular everyday pax would prefer travel on AA.
They can price match all they want, but they can't compete in the long term. Well... there's always bankruptcy. Which, AA will need a miracle, over the next few years to avoid it anyway. |
Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
(Post 3462864)
You make a good argument. But, this is exactly the same way new (and cheaper) airlines have always entered new markets. If I recall correctly, it just came out last week that, on a per route operational cost-basis, NK is 46% cheaper to operate than United. AA, and Legacies, can price match all they want, but they'll certainly be losing money on a per route cost. Sure, they'll keep doing it (particularly from AA towards South Florida), but they're also on track to lose more than $1 Bill this year; whilst United and Delta are expected to make profit.
They can price match all they want, but they can't compete in the long term. Well... there's always bankruptcy. Which, AA will need a miracle, over the next few years to avoid it anyway. AA's costs, as with all the legacies is double Spirit's. But so is their average revenue. I believe all three legacies reported a profit for Q2, will NK? Yes, I know JB is in the same boat. But the point stands. It should be clear to you, if you step back and look at the entire picture, that simply having the lowest CASM doesn't guarantee success. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3467608)
People said 5-6-7-8 years ago, that AA would be filing bankruptcy "within the next couple years".
AA's costs, as with all the legacies is double Spirit's. But so is their average revenue. I believe all three legacies reported a profit for Q2, will NK? Yes, I know JB is in the same boat. But the point stands. It should be clear to you, if you step back and look at the entire picture, that simply having the lowest CASM doesn't guarantee success. |
Originally Posted by hercretired
(Post 3467643)
revenue is not profit
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3467658)
And neither is costs! Are you seriously this one dimensional?
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