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12-12-2022 | 07:00 AM

#31

Stayontarget

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Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017

I think you missed my point. I wasn’t talking about attrition in this post. I was talking about how it doesn’t help the pilot group as a whole with leverage. If less people leave that helps the company but how does it help us? Not to mention the regional style sign on bonus. Would love to see stats on how many accept that.

Ah my bad then. We will still be underpaid regardless of how many people leave. And as more contracts happen that gap will only widen until F9 pilots get our due. War is coming for us.

I would really also like to see that. I wouldn’t accept but I’m at a different place in my life than a pilot with 100k+ in loans and less than 3 years in the market to know any better.

12-12-2022 | 07:43 AM

#32

SoFloFlyer

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Originally Posted by putzin;[url=tel:3549938

3549938[/url]]Interesting. What is the average experience level of your new hires? Are you pulling in many 1500 hour pilots?

When I interviewed at F9, there were 3 CFIs from a ATP doing some sort of paperwork while I waiting to be called for the panel. I don’t know the exact numbers, but I bet it’s about the same as NK’s numbers for hiring CFIs.

12-14-2022 | 06:01 PM

#33

fumeevented

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Originally Posted by Stayontarget

You mentioned this before without facts so I’ll help you this time. Our attrition per month since the raise in June has been 30, 26, 14, 22, 16, 15 and currently at 9 this month.

I would say it hasn’t been long enough to trace a definite trend but I would say it seems to have helped whether we agree with the policy or not.

well no **** it helped. thats why they wanted it. so they dont have to give you anything to fix their problem.

Im in disbelief that any pilot would vote yes with that in there.

12-14-2022 | 08:58 PM

#34

Stayontarget

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Originally Posted by fumeevented

well no **** it helped. thats why they wanted it. so they dont have to give you anything to fix their problem.

Im in disbelief that any pilot would vote yes with that in there.

Meh, if everybody gets raises we will just be right back where we started. Except the bonus. That’s one big pile of crap. A good amount of pilots are leaving jet blue and AK with $90 per hour no? I might be wrong there. Don’t have the numbers. Regardless, it’s still not a provision I’m for in the future. I’m veeeery curious why the NK union went with it after all the vitriol I have read on this forum towards the policy.