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Noisecanceller 01-07-2023 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by beech_nut (Post 3566434)
Awesome! Lets all rush to vote yes so we can be paid less than allegiant is offering. Bottom feeder for life should be the new lanyard.

Where can I find Allegiants TA?

Judge Smails 01-07-2023 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3566474)
Where can I find Allegiants TA?

It’s not a TA, it’s a management proposal mailed directly to the pilots, similar to what Spirit management did in ‘17.

8JRMfortheyear 01-07-2023 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3566499)
It’s not a TA, it’s a management proposal mailed directly to the pilots, similar to what Spirit management did in ‘17.


Yup the same proposal that ALPA told us to send back and ended up getting the same rate 2 years later lol.

Noisecanceller 01-07-2023 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3566520)
Yup the same proposal that ALPA told us to send back and ended up getting the same rate 2 years later lol.

Except we got our 401k overages in cash and LTD. That alone was worth it but let’s not let facts get in the way

Noisecanceller 01-07-2023 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3566499)
It’s not a TA, it’s a management proposal mailed directly to the pilots, similar to what Spirit management did in ‘17.

So what is it?

symbian simian 01-07-2023 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3566573)
So what is it?


It’s not a TA, it’s a management proposal mailed directly to the pilots, similar to what Spirit management did in ‘17.

8JRMfortheyear 01-07-2023 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3566572)
Except we got our 401k overages in cash and LTD. That alone was worth it but let’s not let facts get in the way


right….🙄

filler

CincoDeMayo 01-07-2023 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3566738)
right….🙄

filler

If you dont see the gains/differences in the 2018 CBA vs the unsolicited offer Bendo sent to our homes, you really are a blind troll. You are the 10% that will always complain, be unhappy, feel like the union "screwed" you and just plain damn miserable.

And for reference, for some of the newer guys, his screen name refers to guys like him that would go against our pre 2018 contract and accept 200% over the 5 trips every pilot was allowed. You get 5, and that was it. Some pilots said screw it and worked deals with scheduling and circumvented the contract to suit their needs, like this clown, screwing over fellow pilots for their opportunity for some extra cash. And he was upset that some people took note of these people, "gravy chokers", and called them out.

So he complains and then screws over guys in the process. Its all about him, always has, always will. Let me guess, youre a "no voter" on the TA?

onedolla 01-07-2023 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3566749)
If you dont see the gains/differences in the 2018 CBA vs the unsolicited offer Bendo sent to our homes, you really are a blind troll. You are the 10% that will always complain, be unhappy, feel like the union "screwed" you and just plain damn miserable.

And for reference, for some of the newer guys, his screen name refers to guys like him that would go against our pre 2018 contract and accept 200% over the 5 trips every pilot was allowed. You get 5, and that was it. Some pilots said screw it and worked deals with scheduling and circumvented the contract to suit their needs, like this clown, screwing over fellow pilots for their opportunity for some extra cash. And he was upset that some people took note of these people, "gravy chokers", and called them out.

So he complains and then screws over guys in the process. Its all about him, always has, always will. Let me guess, youre a "no voter" on the TA?

To be fair it seems with this TA both yes and no camps are saying they’re trying to NOT screw over the group (be it the apple analogy vs expecting a second better TA relatively fast)

Noisecanceller 01-07-2023 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3566734)
It’s not a TA, it’s a management proposal mailed directly to the pilots, similar to what Spirit management did in ‘17.

Got that but what are the numbers?


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