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Originally Posted by I was inverted
(Post 3568298)
Right back at the table, lol. You’ll be living under your new contract for probably 4-5 years. Enjoy.
Be a good boy and vote in that TA, daddy wants that snap up in the JCBA when we become a happy family. Run along, make it happen. |
Originally Posted by I was inverted
(Post 3568293)
It is an absolutely a contract. It may not be a completely negotiated new CBA, but it is most definitely a contract.
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
(Post 3568309)
Company isn’t coming back to the table the only reason they came in the first place is because they wanted to raise first year pay and couldn’t. Now they can do it unilaterally, they aren’t coming back now.
Ever? We will never bargain for another contract like it says we have to in two years or when the JB merger fails? Good. It will be easier to prove to a mediator the company isn’t bargaining in good faith and we can get released. I’m also hoping they do raise first year pay, so when we do bargain again that will be the new bottom. |
Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3568335)
Ever? We will never bargain for another contract like it says we have to in two years or when the JB merger fails? Good. It will be easier to prove to a mediator the company isn’t bargaining in good faith and we can get released. I’m also hoping they do raise first year pay, so when we do bargain again that will be the new bottom.
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Originally Posted by onedolla
(Post 3568394)
What’s to say year 1 and 2 pay can’t be within 2% of each other as a new standard going forward forever and they treat it the same they did for this new contract? Would that really be a “gain” for us?
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
(Post 3568168)
Sad. Really sad.
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk
(Post 3568332)
sorry meant. This is a 2 year deal with a stipulation of right back to the table if b6 falls through. This isn’t a 5 year stuck behind the industry type deal. It might take others a year before a TA, who knows what happens with the economy in the meantime. This contract is crap as a 5 year standard deal but it isn’t. We will be mid cycle now and have great leverage for a JCBA or standalone NK.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
(Post 3568418)
The only way they'll be rushing back to the table in 2 years is to ask for concessions on industry-trailing rates if this merger doesn't happen. This management group has shown they can't run a consistently profitable airline, and somehow that is supposed to justify our underwhelming ask. This could easily be a 5-year deal in the case the merger falters.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3568311)
Sorry you guys won’t be able to use Spirit 2018 rates against us as leverage in the SLI or by your management for TPA/JCBA.
Be a good boy and vote in that TA, daddy wants that snap up in the JCBA when we become a happy family. Run along, make it happen. no your are right. We will instead use the fact you knowingly approved an inferior contract while we had a better offer on the table. thank you for solidifying your career expectations. If you expect our MEC to put forth any effort at all to bring you guys up during the TPA negotiations you are insane. You had your chance 2 months ago. Your union leadership sold you a bill of goods and I would put a paycheck bet on no financial gains during TPA. |
Originally Posted by DrDHD
(Post 3568424)
your beloved spirit is out of business if your merger with JetBlue fails. If it wasn’t for b6, the next airline in the USA to go bankrupt will be Spirit. Ulcc doesn’t work with your leadership team.
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