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Originally Posted by panpanpan
(Post 3567074)
Now that Allegiant proposed rates are higher than this TA, does that change the way any of you guys vote?
"We are not Allegiant" Continue... |
Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
(Post 3567118)
Queue in the Defense calvary:
"We are not Allegiant" Continue... Cue cavalry |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3567126)
Cue
cavalry "They dont have the same 401k as us" Continue.. |
Originally Posted by panpanpan
(Post 3567074)
Now that Allegiant proposed rates are higher than this TA, does that change the way any of you guys vote?
#1 this isn’t an official TA for Allegiant #2 our TA, isn’t a normal contract…it’s just a pay raise while we negotiate our JCBA with JetBlue. |
I agree. Company circumventing their union. It’ll be awhile before they actually implement anything. Months at best. Second fact is spirit is at the table now to address new hire and attrition issues. If our new contract doesn’t improve those problems they’ll be back to the table to increase rates again.
If piece of tape doesn’t stop a leak you go back and rematch it. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3567151)
No, two reasons.
#1 this isn’t an official TA for Allegiant #2 our TA, isn’t a normal contract…it’s just a pay raise while we negotiate our JCBA with JetBlue. It’s not a TA but it is proposed rates. That’s just semantics. Also, you may be stuck with that pay raise for 2-3 years. Why not get a pay raise to match your peers? |
Originally Posted by panpanpan
(Post 3567163)
It’s not a TA but it is proposed rates. That’s just semantics. Also, you may be stuck with that pay raise for 2-3 years. Why not get a pay raise to match your peers?
The primary logic of yes voters is that we will ultimately get more money in our pockets by taking the money now than by pursuing a slightly bigger raise that might not come for months or years. |
Originally Posted by baseball3792
(Post 3567172)
Oh no, imagine the horror of being stuck with a pay raise for 2-3 years (particularly one that’s backloaded to be a lot better for 2024). Much worse than being stuck with what we have now for 2-3 years. Horrific.
The primary logic of yes voters is that we will ultimately get more money in our pockets by taking the money now than by pursuing a slightly bigger raise that might not come for months or years. |
Originally Posted by onedolla
(Post 3567186)
Which, of course, is usually the logic used to pass any TA1… this isn’t unique.
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Originally Posted by baseball3792
(Post 3567191)
Well, the yes voters also argue that the upcoming TPA and JCBA change the timeframes substantially and that we don’t have years to waste negotiating now when we’ll already be negotiating again in a year. Right or wrong, that’s the belief, and this will pass roughly 70-30 I’d guess
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