dreadFOroberts

Currently have an interview scheduled in August with Spirit. Received an email from a recruiter with an outline of some benefits and bullet points on the training footprint. The following stood out:

• Five (5) full flight simulator training sessions in FLL
• Loft (conducted in the right seat)
• Extended Envelope Training (EET)

I know in a prior thread there was some discussion about Spirit altering the training program to adjust for the experience level of the pilots coming in; I believe (it's been a while since I read it) that 5 sims were deemed too few and the company was increasing them. Is the EET that additional training/sim component or is that something else? Or is the sample above outdated and there are more than 5 sims?

RemoveB4flght

Relax babe, let it happen. You’ll be just fine, as were the hundreds and hundreds of pilots before who successfully navigated NK training.

dreadFOroberts

That's uh...a little creepy the way you worded it. :-)

I did laugh, though.

No, I'm not worried about navigating training, I'm just curious about the evolution of it. The regional I fly for does x-number of sims, followed by a set of specialized sims for certain emphasis areas - I guess I was wondering if this was the same kind of thing.

CincoDeMayo

I dont think thats accurate. Should be
4 FTDs
6 Full flight sims
Type Ride
Loft

That should be plenty. "Back in my day it was 4 sims," and we were all fine.

skitheline

We have so many FPT sessions that by the time you finish those, you'll be more than ready for the FTD sessions. After getting used to the flight deck layout and running some ECAM actions in the FTD, the FFS sessions really aren't bad.

dreadFOroberts

Thanks for the info. The bullets I posted came straight from a recruiter email.

ToastnCheese

I start class next month. The information I was given is 4 FTD’s followed by 6 sims.

MaCrOs

That's not even including the CSIs - you'll be WELL ready for the sims...

CincoDeMayo

What I posted came straight from the Flight Ops Training Manual. But I’m sure the work from home recruiter has the current flight training syllabus 🙄

H6Q9

I'm not sure why they are putting out such limited information. They give you a study packet and posters about a month before class starts. This gives you the limitations, memory items, and flows to learn (need to know all flows from both left and right seat). NK doesn't do a lot of seat support, so both FO's do all the sims, from both sides, gate to gate.

Week 1 - Indoc / death by powerpoint (DPP)
Week 2 - DPP / 5 CPTs on flat panel trainers
Week 3 - go home and learn systems via iPad
Week 4,5 - 8 CSIs (Cockpit Systems Integration) - more flat panel trainers plus systems knowledge
Week 6 - 4 FTDs (full cockpit sims without motion)
Week 7,8 - 6 FFS (Level D simulator with motion), then type ride, 1 EET sim, and 1 LOFT sim

I hope that clears up any confusion about how "short" training is. It isn't, it's about the same as most places.