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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3706814)

Just to be clear every airline needs the same basic percentage of pilots working on holidays. A contract can and will shift what pilots will work a holiday but it won’t change the number of pilots working.

No, Spirit work rules bend gravity, and have a special reality warp. All you have to do is press the magic button on the electronic genie, and no Spirit pilot has to work a day they don't want to, including weekends, holidays, or work at all in the summer. It's yellow-dust magic.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3706814)

No one is arguing that. The point is that our contract allow us to change/manipulate our schedules/bid a certain way that the legacies historically don’t get too.

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3706843)

Bluedriver, you sound like you hate yourself. Enjoy life more, man

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3706845)

Bluedriver, you sound like you hate yourself. Enjoy life more, man

Hate myself? Man you really don't know me.

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3706844)

No one is arguing that..

I don't know about that. There are a lot of people on here arguing 2+2=5 when it comes to Holiday coverage on here....

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Originally Posted by vegabondpilot (Post 3706832)

There was one in my class who got a UA CJO and turned it down. I know of another who left for DL, hates it, and is trying to come back. LCA I recently had in the jumpseat told us about a couple guys who left for AA who are trying to come back.

They're out there.

“I know a guy who knows a guy”. Yep everyone at the legacies is so miserable they are breaking down spirits door trying to get in. Must be why we have zero attrition problems. :D

And just so we are clear having a CJO while already in class at NK is not what I said…

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3706844)

No one is arguing that. The point is that our contract allow us to change/manipulate our schedules/bid a certain way that the legacies historically don’t get too.

Man our NC and management has brain washed our pilot group so hard.

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3706846)

Hate myself? Man you really don't know me.

No one knows anyone on here. You just sound like it is all. I bet you’re a decent person to be around and fly with, but you seem to not a believe anyone on here about QOL and how good we have it. Is Spirit perfect, hell no. But is it better than most, I’d say so.

Hence why we shouldn’t give an inch at the table during JCBA talks. Both companies have things going for them that would make post merger JB something to reckon with!

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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3706868)

Man our NC and management has brain washed our pilot group so hard.

My thoughts exactly.

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 3706890)

Can't say so just because you maybe know 2 or 3 people at each Airline, if that. Sample size is too small to make that conclusion. Do you know the QOL of a lot of the widebody UAL peeps, how about a lot of the Captains on narrowbody Delta who gets the system working for them?

At the end of the day, that's simply your opinion, which is fine. As long as you know that. Driver gave you an idea of what his QOL is like and all you can think about is "how good we have it". You're sounding like some of the bluejuicers we have over here. You're drunk on the NK QOL mantra. No one is saying there aren't stuff we need to keep, just please don't go into JCBA thinking you need to choose QOL over compensation when your back is against the wall, let's go for both.