There isn’t though.

Nowhere did I say the prevailing sentiment among the NK masses was “screw reserves”. You made the assertion that the grid/dtz only works at the detriment to reserves pilots, but it doesn’t have to be that way. However, improved reserve life has to be bargained for, and it happens that the past couple negotiations occurred during times when pilots weren’t experiencing prolonged time on reserve due to expansive growth. Boosting their QOL wasn’t high on the priority list, but it wasn’t out of malice, there were just more pressing concerns than the forward thinking “hey one day seniority progress will slow, so sweet reserve life will benefit future pilots and senior guys will want to bid down to it.” Context is important.

There have been many dropped balls in previous negotiations, but that’s spilt milk under the bridge.

Considering RSV as something to "bid down to" is part of the problem. It's not up, it's not down, it's just a choice, or should be. Only when you have made it terrible for the sake of another group does it become a 2nd or 3rd class existence.

And others in your group have made it clear that the ability for lineholders to have such great drop experiences is because RSVs can't drop/swap. That's not me saying so, it's your guys. So it clearly is at the expense of RSVs.

The JCBA is going to have to be a balanced agreement.

For what it’s worth, some folks bit reserve so they don’t fly. Depends on the month. PBS awards days off first on a reserve bid so that helps some CAs out when their grid is red.

That said, I still think the best way to go about it is to keep it the way it is and have the reserve pilots aggressive pick up trips within the 48 hour mark. That would help commuters on reserve.

Reserve pilots need to be able to drop and swap days off. Period. Any other ideas are secondary.

It used to be way better than even that. Checkerboarding (making assignments of anything other than single day trips impossible), trip integrity, deal making to make JA pay and not just for move-up pay, paid commute leg to make a trip…. Lots of stuff went bye bye with C2018. The last two were never contractually obligated, but they seemed more willing to negotiate pre-C2018…

Copy all.

Dropping and swapping days as a RSV is already JB book. Not sure how these guys think it's just gonna go away in a JCBA.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure, I suppose. I love reserve here, I would be more than happy to show anybody my schedule on reserve. Can I drop or swap days? No but I don’t need to. I understand those who might want to adjust their schedule better might not like the schedule that we have as far as reserve. But for me, reserve is much better for my commute than having a line, I literally work five days and then I basically have five days off. Last month I flew 15 hours and credit at 105. And I can back it up. I enjoy the hell out of reserve here and plan on staying on it as long as I can. Again, YMMV.

Yes schedule flexibility can be one way. My point is you don't know how their schedule flexibility works for them, or if it works for the majority or not just by knowing 2 or 3 people. You know yours and it works great for you. It doesn't mean it's the only way to cook the QOL hotdog.

Example: I purposely bid reserve in the slow months and stay home for majority of the month(last month I only did a 2 day) plus picked up Premuim reserve (RSA) on the weekend. That works great for me this time of year. Doesn't mean that's the only QOL or the only thing I do. Everyone needs are different.

Also, you can't assume that because Driver enjoys that QOL and has 12+ years at B6 means that's the years you have to be at B6 to enjoy it. That's a false assumption. He's just 1 sample size that just happen to have 12+ while giving you an example. He also gave more explanations than just "12 years" but you clinged to the 12 years and made assumptions.

Quite a few guys do the samething as you do in the slower months so I get that.

I assume that decent QOL goes fairly senior (at least a couple of years depending on BES?) and we’re saying year 1 pilots at NK get decent QOL, but no one seems to acknowledge that part.

How does dropping reserve days work at JB?