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demonrat 10-06-2023 05:35 AM

Reserves got hammered last contract. No dropping or moving. Basically get what you're awarded.

More flexibility for lineholders. More 200%. More dropping. Less holidays.

Horse refused to drink, so I drowned the horse.

demonrat 10-06-2023 05:38 AM

Reserves can X/Y, but unless you can hold weekends off, not much overtime opportunity.

You also have to be legal, which is difficult on a reserve schedule.

No picking up trips on reserve.

Horse moved, so I shot it.

Bluediver 10-06-2023 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by demonrat (Post 3707048)
Reserves can X/Y, but unless you can hold weekends off, not much overtime opportunity.

You also have to be legal, which is difficult on a reserve schedule.

No picking up trips on reserve.

Horse moved, so I shot it.

So now we know why Reserve grids are green. They’ve cut the legs off the reserves so they may not run. Thanks for that.

Cart was to heavy, so I kept whipping the horse.

ftaba1 10-06-2023 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3707072)
So now we know why Reserve grids are green. They’ve cut the legs off the reserves so they may not run. Thanks for that.
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That’s exactly correct. Plus reserves only get 12 days off (13 in 31-day months). Lineholders get great QOL for the expense of reserves. Which is 30% + of the pilot group.

Tornado875 10-06-2023 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by demonrat (Post 3707048)
Reserves can X/Y, but unless you can hold weekends off, not much overtime opportunity.

You also have to be legal, which is difficult on a reserve schedule.

No picking up trips on reserve.

Horse moved, so I shot it.

Damn I didn't know that the cost of Red/Green and DTZ was so high. Reserve is much cushier at B6, it even tends to go senior sometimes during the year due to how a little work you have to do and how much schedule flexibility it affords.

Bluediver 10-06-2023 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tornado875 (Post 3707113)
Damn I didn't know that the cost of Red/Green and DTZ was so high. Reserve is much cushier at B6, it even tends to go senior sometimes during the year due to how a little work you have to do and how much schedule flexibility it affords.


Sure would suck to not be able to move a reserve day for 3 to 4 years after you decided to take an early upgrade.

demonrat 10-06-2023 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3707072)
So now we know why Reserve grids are green. They’ve cut the legs off the reserves so they may not run. Thanks for that.

Cart was to heavy, so I kept whipping the horse.

Like I said, more of you than me. You'll win.

Congratulations.

BananaHammock 10-06-2023 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3707001)
Why are you comparing yourself to Avelo?

Tell me why a new to market small airline matches or betters the rates of an established major airline and I'll tell you why our rates are laughable

skitheline 10-06-2023 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3707117)
Sure would suck to not be able to move a reserve day for 3 to 4 years after you decided to take an early upgrade.

Reserve here sucks and is no better than at the regionals... this needs to be fixed in the JCBA. I know captains in certain bases that have been on reserve for 3 years, that's not hyperbole. Working under our reserve rules for 3 years sounds bad.

Bluediver 10-06-2023 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by demonrat (Post 3707120)
Like I said, more of you than me. You'll win.

Congratulations.

Was specifically trying to figure out where all these Green Day’s came from. Never said I don’t like DTZ, but it had to come at some expense. I wanted to know what that expense was. Now I know a majority have an option at the extreme expense of a minority.


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