I think it's dumb because reserves are reserves. Allowing 150% pickups reduces the pool of potential 200% X trips for lineholders, effectively jumping seniority in my eyes. Assign the trip to someone on reserve or call someone for an X if scheduling cant staff. A better option would be to first allow spirit pilots to actually bid RAPs by seniority, and then have a better system than the 'call me first' system, that honors seniority for 'specific' trips available inside 24 hours. Reserves straight picking up open time is a NO from me whether on a rap or off day. Do XY like everyone else. There is no provision preventing reserves from listing for X or Y on off days, just like lineholders. That is fair.

 

I think within 48hr first come first serve pick up by a reserve is fair but a seniority based pick up would be good too. Just somehow allow reserves to choose a preferred trip rather than waiting for a random assignment that fits their rap if it’s within the 48hr window where line holders can’t pick it up in open time. Would rather see that than allowing reserves to drop r days. Dropping r days would likely turn the grid red most days of the month.

 

And this is correct and while i dont care that checkerboarding is gone, exactly because it screwed lineholders on red green. Yeah yeah it was senior guys bidding reserve doing it, dont care. It was dumb.

 

There will have to be some compromise for reserve life, for the past several contracts the narrative has been “you spend a couple months on reserve as a new hire and a couple months as an upgrade and the rest of your career as a line holder and life is good, why waste negotiating capital on reserve rules?”. That’s may still hold true for some bases for FO’s, but upgrades will see much longer times on reserve, especially merging with B6.

Reserve pickups inside 48 hours when the grid is green is a no-brainer, let the guys who want to fly on reserve fly, and let them have a chance to fly the trips they prefer instead of waiting and hoping. There could also be some way to effort limited reserve drops without undermining the grid for line holders.

 

Every reserve day at Southwest is shortcall, just saying!

 

Whatever the end resent we need to make the reserve system good enough for both Jr and Sr. Our current system is just atrocious.

 

I care it is gone. I never bid reserve, because due to family I need to know when I will be home. Because of checkerboarding and other good reserve rules I did not have to do reserve when I took first available upgrade. Senior people bidding reserve massively increases QOL for junior people. And it was in the contract so spare me the "it was abuse" wailing. Next you will tell me I should plan 4 flights so I don't abuse the commute policy, or to extend on a red eye to not abuse the 12.5 actual on duty. IT IS/WAS A NEGOTIATED BENEFIT. And I think we gave it away without getting enough back. We have DTZ and R/G. Are you suggesting we only drop when the grid is really doubleplus green to make sure NK doesn't have to XY? I think we should do the opposite, so when arbitration starts, we can show how much it costs the company, and we get compensation if it is taken away from us.

 

and i was rarely able to drop as a lineholder because of checkerboarding. And yeah im also pro pbs. I never once saw a benefit from conflict. It also clogged up the red green at the front of every month. Red green is much better post-2018 from my perspective.

 

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Stuck on R3 Reserve. Sucks balls. Used all the time, and getting stuck with all these new hires for Red Eyes. QOL is in the sh|tter!!!!

 

ORD pilots do red eyes? That’s news.