I think the point is that yes the flights get covered but often by those that choose to do it. I don’t come across many that are working those days bc they simply are unable to get them off. I’m sure a few are but it’s not many.

 

I don’t think this is true at all. I think the vast majority of the pilot group have no confidence in this management group to run an airline, have less than zero interest working for anything owned by indigo and absolutely cannot wait for this merger to close with a JCBA that captures the best of both contracts’ work rules with legacy compensation. No one wishes to stay spirit unless they are age 60+ and don’t need the hassle in the last years before retirement.

 

I get your point, but what I’m trying to say is that we, as a collective group, enjoy major holidays off more regularly at a lower seniority than our peers at JB, UA, and such. Whether it be by having those days awarded, adding, dropping, or swapping to get the holidays off.

I have yet to meet a NK pilot that would prioritize money over QOL. Luckily, our set up allows us to work as little or as much as we want.

 

I want both! The red/green ARBITRATED language is set in store and with DTZ is a non negotiable.

That’s no excuse for being compensated less. No excuse!

 

I'm one of those people that chooses to work Christmas. I'm single with no kids and a relatively small extended family. We don't do much. As a senior FO I could easily get Christmas Eve off and then whatever pairing I wanted starting Christmas Day. It's one less pilot with a family possibly forced to work on Christmas and I get a little extra pay.

Speaking of pay, one thing that needs to be majorly improved his holiday pay. I think the new United TA is an additional 5 hours and they have several more holidays.

 

1000%! No reason for us not to be paid more than we are now and keep our QOL!

 

Even my old regional had 200% on holidays worked and Super Bowl was considered a holiday. Our holiday pay needs serious improvements for sure

 

You'll take your 75 bucks and be happy!! Agreed, this needs to change.

 

Our holiday pay is insultingly bad. That definitely needs to change.

I'm also one of those who doesn't mind working the holidays. But, the point was we get a CHOICE. Not everyone wants the same thing. That's the thing that Bluedriver consistently doesn't understand while trying to lecture us about how airline scheduling works. Our scheduling rules are far superior to JetBlue's. He just doesn't get it because he's been Stockholm Syndrome'd into thinking that's how it has to be.

 

At every airline on the planet they need a certain number of pilots to work on Christmas. Lets say 500. At every other airline there are going to be more people that want that day off than are able to get it off. At most other airlines the pilots who want that day off bid it and can either hold it off or cannot and go to work. And yet at Spirit because you are able to trade trips around better than others that somehow means no one who wants a holiday off has to work on a holiday? It literally doesn't matter if the way a pilot is forced to fly on a holiday is determined by bidding, reserves coverage, trip swapping, a lottery, a singing contest, or a gladiatorial fight to the death. The fact is those trips have to be covered, and there will always be more people who want those days off then can get them. How is that math so difficult? I like Spirits DTZ and grid rules, but some of you deny the math behind holiday coverage, and act like everyone else is crazy, and it drives me insane.