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01-16-2024 | 10:23 AM

#141

CatPilot1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nene

Apparently there is a constitutional right for the public to be able to purchase air fare below cost of production......

Yup! Brace for incoming favorable treatment. Spirit is changing its name to Affirmative Action Airlines.

01-16-2024 | 10:40 AM

#142

Flyby1206

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Joined: Mar 2006

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From: 320 CA

Guh.

Sorry spiritbros, we're pretty shocked on the blue side at the denial.

01-16-2024 | 10:56 AM

#143

Mainline Mulier

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

I Spirit Airlines should give the government a big FU, change our business model to ultra luxury like emirates, then appeal the courts ruling.

Just file for CH11 protection. That would be a enough of an FU.

01-16-2024 | 11:02 AM

#144

GrossNavError

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

as a guess, the judge’s premise to shoot down the merger seemed to revolve around NK’s business model. F9 has the same one and might get past the DOJ. On the flip side the DOJ was just emboldened to attack any and every merger with this ruling.

Exactly, there is no way in bloody hell they allow Hawaiian and Alaska now.

01-16-2024 | 11:03 AM

#145

Ed Force One

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Originally Posted by Bluesteal

But in the meantime, we should go back to negotiations and maybe get something while F9/NK plays out again

You must be new.

01-16-2024 | 11:20 AM

#146

dera

In a land of unicorns

Joined: Apr 2014

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From: Whale FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

In the end the ruling wasn't made based on the business model, but that the merger may reduce competition on the markets they serve, and that no-one else is big enough to replace Spirit there. F9/NK merger would most definitely remove more of that competition, and even fewer players could replace them. This Judge would never allow any merger based on this ruling, and DOJ likely knows it.

01-16-2024 | 11:24 AM

#147

Noisecanceller

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesteal

I think this is way worse for JB. Frontier will come back and we will be a huge ULCC now. But in the meantime, we should go back to negotiations and maybe get something while F9/NK plays out again

Ask yourself if that’s actually better. I’d rather go completely out of business than work for anything indigo

01-16-2024 | 12:08 PM

#148

putzin

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Ask yourself if that’s actually better. I’d rather go completely out of business than work for anything indigo

Becasue $0 is better than $350k? Just a dumb comment. Go to UAL or wherever you're going and don't look back, life is too short. Good luck.

01-16-2024 | 12:08 PM

#149

planejoe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mainline Mulier

Just file for CH11 protection. That would be a enough of an FU.

The court documents specifically stated that Spirit's executives have a plan to get back to profitability. So it wouldn't be an FU, it would just be a failure of those executives to deliver.

"Although Spirit is struggling, its executives testified that the airline had a long-term plan to return to profitability." See, e.g., Tr. Ex. 678 at 2; Tr. 11/7/2023

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...67.461.0_8.pdf

01-16-2024 | 12:15 PM

#150

BagMan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Ask yourself if that’s actually better. I’d rather go completely out of business than work for anything indigo

I work at F( now. it is a dumpster fire. I am un sure F9 has enough money left to make a bid on Spirit. we are just to dang busy opening new bases all over the country so we can all do dayturns. yeah