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Old 11-09-2023 | 09:20 AM
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David was in court today, see thread link below of the summary.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...831027472.html
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Old 11-09-2023 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
lmao... now to defend Riceter his post history up til now regarding the trial had ZERO troll elements:

https://stocktwits.com/Riceter
Concur. I checked his posts yesterday and concluded the same. His previous posts matched all others' posts from watching the proceedings. His comments line up with David's and others.

Originally Posted by Excargodog
And if the judge hammers them for overstepping existing precedent that sets an even more restrictive precedent. And with the current attack on Chevron Deference that’s the very LAST thing the Biden administration wants. There has been no significant change in antitrust legislation since AS bought VX. Unless there is, DOJ actually NEEDS to compromise.
Yes, they're taking a gamble that this doesn't backfire on DOJ, further tying their arms.

DOJ is supposed to be done next Wednesday.

I plan on attending the courtroom next Tuesday. Will plan on jumpseating up on Mon, returning Tues afternoon on either B6 or NK. I will post my perceptions of the trial, especially focusing on the Judge's comments because he's the most important person in the room.
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Old 11-09-2023 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy

DOJ is supposed to be done next Wednesday.

I plan on attending the courtroom next Tuesday. Will plan on jumpseating up on Mon, returning Tues afternoon on either B6 or NK. I will post my perceptions of the trial, especially focusing on the Judge's comments because he's the most important person in the room.
what you mean? Done calling all who they need to call to the stand? What about the Defense? Everything wrapping up by next week?

We will definitely appreciate the insight after you attend
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Old 11-09-2023 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
what you mean? Done calling all who they need to call to the stand? What about the Defense? Everything wrapping up by next week?

We will definitely appreciate the insight after you attend
It's a trial, first the prosecution presents their case in chief and then calls all their witnesses, then once they rest the defense has the option to call any witnesses, then closing arguments. Most likely they won't have the defense begin their case until after Thanksgiving break. Once the case is finished the judge will likely take a couple weeks to review his notes and applicable laws and render his decision. Since it is a bench trial, he will author a detailed decision vs just a "guilty/not guilty".
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Old 11-10-2023 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
what you mean? Done calling all who they need to call to the stand? What about the Defense? Everything wrapping up by next week?

We will definitely appreciate the insight after you attend
My apologies; I wish I could edit my post. What I meant to say is that the DOJ stated that they expected to be done with closing arguments the day before Thanksgiving break. I jumped the shark by stating Wednesday Plus, completely my bad, I didn't look at a calendar when writing that (I was in a bit of a hurry). So, assuming that the trial is scheduled to be in session on Wednesday Nov 22 (the day before Thanksgiving), that will be when the DOJ expects to complete closing arguments that day. Again, where I jumped the shark is by assuming that the trial is scheduled for Wed Nov 22; it may start Thanksgiving break earlier than that.

My reference for the DOJ's closing arguments: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...831027472.html
Four paragraphs from the bottom:
Government expects to rest the day before Thanksgiving break. Says they're running slightly ahead of schedule. Finishing with main witnesses next week and continuing on to the expert economists.
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Old 11-10-2023 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
My apologies; I wish I could edit my post. What I meant to say is that the DOJ stated that they expected to be done with closing arguments the day before Thanksgiving break. I jumped the shark by stating Wednesday Plus, completely my bad, I didn't look at a calendar when writing that (I was in a bit of a hurry). So, assuming that the trial is scheduled to be in session on Wednesday Nov 22 (the day before Thanksgiving), that will be when the DOJ expects to complete closing arguments that day. Again, where I jumped the shark is by assuming that the trial is scheduled for Wed Nov 22; it may start Thanksgiving break earlier than that.

My reference for the DOJ's closing arguments: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...831027472.html
Four paragraphs from the bottom:
Government expects to rest the day before Thanksgiving break. Says they're running slightly ahead of schedule. Finishing with main witnesses next week and continuing on to the expert economists.
They may rest their case, but typically neither side gives closing arguments until both sides have called all their witnesses.
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Old 11-10-2023 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
It's a trial, first the prosecution presents their case in chief and then calls all their witnesses, then once they rest the defense has the option to call any witnesses, then closing arguments. Most likely they won't have the defense begin their case until after Thanksgiving break. Once the case is finished the judge will likely take a couple weeks to review his notes and applicable laws and render his decision. Since it is a bench trial, he will author a detailed decision vs just a "guilty/not guilty".
Yeah I got it, what threw me off was when he stated the DOJ was done next Wednesday, it seemed a little too soon for me hence all my questions. But he clarified what he was trying to say below.

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Old 11-10-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
My apologies; I wish I could edit my post. What I meant to say is that the DOJ stated that they expected to be done with closing arguments the day before Thanksgiving break. I jumped the shark by stating Wednesday Plus, completely my bad, I didn't look at a calendar when writing that (I was in a bit of a hurry). So, assuming that the trial is scheduled to be in session on Wednesday Nov 22 (the day before Thanksgiving), that will be when the DOJ expects to complete closing arguments that day. Again, where I jumped the shark is by assuming that the trial is scheduled for Wed Nov 22; it may start Thanksgiving break earlier than that.

My reference for the DOJ's closing arguments: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...831027472.html
Four paragraphs from the bottom:
Government expects to rest the day before Thanksgiving break. Says they're running slightly ahead of schedule. Finishing with main witnesses next week and continuing on to the expert economists.
Oh ok. Gotcha
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Old 11-14-2023 | 09:28 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFN_iXHdF78

Some good trial analysis.
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Old 11-14-2023 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Cohen has some good "info" on the general setting of the trial to this point.

But remember, his company is in the business of giving his clients first hand information. Or as it says on their website, "provide clients with actionable investment ideas that tend to be non-correlated with the market. MDC has been providing its subscription “Event‐Driven Legal℠” investment‐research. He gets paid to report. So based on this, no shocker he gives a soft 50/50 on which way this goes or when he basicsally "pushed" when asked "who is winning right now." He isnt going to give his paid opinion, for free on a podcast, when clients pay him directly for analysis.
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