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Verdell 02-08-2024 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3766029)
thia is the culture issue everyone sees with Delta….you literally just typed it out. We are the best….we know we are the best….everyone else wants to be us.

no one at Delta ever says hey we’re a pretty good airline! They have to end every sentence with “the other 2(3/4) suck.

At the risk of sounding like a contrarian..... no, they don't.

Hedley 02-08-2024 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3766029)
thia is the culture issue everyone sees with Delta….you literally just typed it out. We are the best….we know we are the best….everyone else wants to be us.

no one at Delta ever says hey we’re a pretty good airline! They have to end every sentence with “the other 2(3/4) suck.

That's true at every company. We have plenty of people at UA who think their farts don't stink too.

Wasntme 02-08-2024 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3766029)
thia is the culture issue everyone sees with Delta….you literally just typed it out. We are the best….we know we are the best….everyone else wants to be us.

no one at Delta ever says hey we’re a pretty good airline! They have to end every sentence with “the other 2(3/4) suck.



They were abused children.

PilotJ3 02-09-2024 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3766029)
thia is the culture issue everyone sees with Delta….you literally just typed it out. We are the best….we know we are the best….everyone else wants to be us.

no one at Delta ever says hey we’re a pretty good airline! They have to end every sentence with “the other 2(3/4) suck.

But it’s true isn’t? :D

Joke aside, all this “cultural”, it’s BS. Every place has their 1%. When I was at Envoy, most people at AA said the same thing about Delta. Now I’m at delta and most senior CA I used to fly said the same thing about AA. So at the end of the day, it’s all the same. “We are great, the other sucks and their culture is not as good, but their contract is better than ours. I know X pilot that makes more than me, or has more days off than me, or I want that from their contract in our contract”. :rolleyes:

nene 02-09-2024 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3766808)
But it’s true isn’t? :D

Joke aside, all this “cultural”, it’s BS. Every place has their 1%. When I was at Envoy, most people at AA said the same thing about Delta. Now I’m at delta and most senior CA I used to fly said the same thing about AA. So at the end of the day, it’s all the same. “We are great, the other sucks and their culture is not as good, but their contract is better than ours. I know X pilot that makes more than me, or has more days off than me, or I want that from their contract in our contract”. :rolleyes:

Contentment is not a strong pilot trait, especially on the interwebs.....

DryClutch 02-10-2024 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3766029)
thia is the culture issue everyone sees with Delta….you literally just typed it out. We are the best….we know we are the best….everyone else wants to be us.

no one at Delta ever says hey we’re a pretty good airline! They have to end every sentence with “the other 2(3/4) suck.

All of what you typed is pretty far removed from actual realtity.

LoopsMcDoops 02-10-2024 10:04 AM

Been in contact with a few recruiters.. waiting on an interview date at two legacies. Things a bit backed up apparently. Punchin out!

310god 02-10-2024 10:46 AM

the more of you senior guys and gals that have the experience and resumes to leave actually leave, the more you will be helping out the junior guys from getting furloughed. much appreciated. personally, if I had 10 yrs seniority I wouldn't bet my career on a knee jerk reaction and start over again without at least waiting a little bit to see how things play out. at the end of the day, our NB jets are highly desirable and so are the people to fly them.

Noisecanceller 02-10-2024 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by 310god (Post 3767060)
the more of you senior guys and gals that have the experience and resumes to leave actually leave, the more you will be helping out the junior guys from getting furloughed. much appreciated. personally, if I had 10 yrs seniority I wouldn't bet my career on a knee jerk reaction and start over again without at least waiting a little bit to see how things play out. at the end of the day, our NB jets are highly desirable and so are the people to fly them.

Here’s to hoping.

If the town hall was any indication of the future it that this management has zero vision and thinks they just flow up and down with the market.

Excargodog 02-11-2024 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by 310god (Post 3767060)
the more of you senior guys and gals that have the experience and resumes to leave actually leave, the more you will be helping out the junior guys from getting furloughed. much appreciated. personally, if I had 10 yrs seniority I wouldn't bet my career on a knee jerk reaction and start over again without at least waiting a little bit to see how things play out. at the end of the day, our NB jets are highly desirable and so are the people to fly them.

In a recent UA intro class two of the bottome three in seniority still got upgrade slots. Nor are such slots uncommon:



Originally Posted by airbusflieger (Post 3767067)
Is it true the recent class drop included 737 captain slots?

I'm with American.

Thanks, AF


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3767090)
There's been CA slots in every class since the new contract was ratified. The last vacancy that closed had ~180 unfilled CA bids which will be passed onto new hires. The currency open vacancy has 220+ unfilled CA bids. CA bids have gone all the way down to the 8 ball at least once, and the 2nd most junior person in the class (the 7 ball? 15 ball???) multiple times. Bottom line is they aren't going away any time soon!


Yup, it's a relatively lean probation year and more years of reserve after that, but with 5-6 hundred retirements a year and able to make CA as soon as off probation, your family's economic future is a little more assured. Everybody makes choices, it all depends on what you think is best for you and yours.


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