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Jdub2 03-08-2024 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3779066)
alarmist alarmist panic panic music stopping show is ending slowdowns pauses furloughs.
Stop

american just announced a huge airplane order - they have huge retirement numbers - they need pilots. United needs pilots, but of course they’ll pause due to lack of over 100 airplanes - thanks Boeing. Southwest will need pilots - but of course they’ll pause due to a lack of airplanes - thanks Boeing. Delta has said they were going to decrease to about 1000 hired this year, thay haven’t indicated anything different recently? those are still huge numbers. Why does everyone want to go into some sort of sky is falling mode. This is due to lack of airplanes once the airplane shortage is figured out, the pilot hiring will
begin again.

I believe American’s order is for replacements

thrust 03-09-2024 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 3779253)
I believe American’s order is for replacements

No mainline AA aircraft retirements until 2030. This recent order is all growth, for now.

Born2FlyAv8R 03-09-2024 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 3779253)
I believe American’s order is for replacements

no, it’s not, as a matter fact, the airbuses that they already have they are refurbishing and keeping in service.

JulesWinfield 03-09-2024 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3779434)
no, it’s not, as a matter fact, the airbuses that they already have they are refurbishing and keeping in service.

A lot of those are from the mid 90s, and slapping a new interior and LCD screens in won’t fix a lot of the problems. They’ll definitely get rid of them at some point, so it might be for growth at the moment, but long term, those old Westies won’t last.

Born2FlyAv8R 03-09-2024 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3779456)
A lot of those are from the mid 90s, and slapping a new interior and LCD screens in won’t fix a lot of the problems. They’ll definitely get rid of them at some point, so it might be for growth at the moment, but long term, those old Westies won’t last.

but why guess when they will retire, all aircraft obviously, at some point in time will be retired. We are talking about the here and now, and for now it is growth.

TransWorld 03-09-2024 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3779433)
No mainline AA aircraft retirements until 2030. This recent order is all growth, for now.

All the A321 orders will not be delivered until starting in 2030.

CatPilot1 03-09-2024 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3779603)
All the A321 orders will not be delivered until starting in 2030.

Perfect timing, WW3 should be over by then.

hercretired 03-09-2024 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3779603)
All the A321 orders will not be delivered until starting in 2030.

15 XLR's will be in the fleet by end of 2025/early 2026. In the fleet, flying pax ops, operational

SSlow 03-09-2024 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3779675)
15 XLR's will be in the fleet by end of 2025/early 2026. In the fleet, flying pax ops, operational

I could be wrong, but isn't that assuming no hiccups in the certification process?

We've all seen how that worked out with the max

tallpilot 03-09-2024 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3779456)
A lot of those are from the mid 90s, and slapping a new interior and LCD screens in won’t fix a lot of the problems. They’ll definitely get rid of them at some point, so it might be for growth at the moment, but long term, those old Westies won’t last.

I agree but it's also intelligent fleet management. As long as loads are high and the 'oldies but goodies' are net positive to earnings they will stay in the mix. If demand falters then they get parked. It would be nice to get flight plan uplink though to go with fancy overhead bins.


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