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tallpilot 03-09-2024 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3779071)
I doubt that 500 at sw stays in a pool when they cancelled their classes and said no more for the rest of the yr. Plus 500 in a pool sounds very high.

Remember WN attrition dropped to near 0 because people are waiting for the signing bonus. That may be giving management a false sense of security. The new contract is pretty good but the widebody urge remains strong for many.

The Max 7 is certainly a major problem for them but I suspect they will end up running a few classes.

Jdub2 03-09-2024 05:53 PM

Their CEO said the order was primarily for replacement on CNBC, but what does he know

WHACKMASTER 03-10-2024 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 3779764)
Their CEO said the order was primarily for replacement on CNBC, but what does he know

Sometimes we ask ourselves the same question about our CEO 🙄

RJSAviator76 03-11-2024 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jdub2 (Post 3779764)
Their CEO said the order was primarily for replacement on CNBC, but what does he know

Pretty sure any new aircraft have to be labeled as mostly replacements, especially in this economy. If not, watch the stock price get decimated.

LAXtoDEN 03-11-2024 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3780568)
Pretty sure any new aircraft have to be labeled as mostly replacements, especially in this economy. If not, watch the stock price get decimated.

What are you talking about? The Big 3 all have the intentions of their new aircraft orders being growth, and no, the stocks haven’t been “decimated”.

SWA is afraid of it’s own shadow and they will continue to shrink as the Big 3 take over their flying.

MCDUmanipulator 03-11-2024 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3779456)
A lot of those are from the mid 90s, and slapping a new interior and LCD screens in won’t fix a lot of the problems. They’ll definitely get rid of them at some point, so it might be for growth at the moment, but long term, those old Westies won’t last.

you realize how long the MD-80’s flew? Heck delta was going to keep flying the 88 if it wasn’t for Covid.

nene 03-12-2024 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3780569)
What are you talking about? The Big 3 all have the intentions of their new aircraft orders being growth, and no, the stocks haven’t been “decimated”.

SWA is afraid of it’s own shadow and they will continue to shrink as the Big 3 take over their flying.

Traditionally:
SWA is like the Uber conservative realestate investor who only buys small houses with cash to rent out with proceeds from its other rentals.

Delta borrows money to buy fixer uppers and tries to refurbish them into an investment property.

United/AA leverages heavily and buys new construction condos and commercial realestate.

If the economy falters, company woes follow predictable paths.

hercretired 03-12-2024 08:54 AM

the "recession" we are supposedly in is the longest never-happened recession in history

oh, and AA will be bankrupt "any day now"

remember, if you want a "career airline" go to SWA or FDX

oh wait..

HSCompressor 03-12-2024 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3780755)
Traditionally:
SWA is like the Uber conservative realestate investor who only buys small houses with cash to rent out with proceeds from its other rentals.

Delta borrows money to buy fixer uppers and tries to refurbish them into an investment property.

United/AA leverages heavily and buys new construction condos and commercial realestate.

If the economy falters, company woes follow predictable paths.

The question is, has the landscape changed? Are these companies now too big to fail? Their aggressive actions might be because they're too big to fail now. So your last statement might not hold the same water it used to.

PineappleXpres 03-12-2024 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3780755)
Traditionally:
SWA is like the Uber conservative realestate investor who only buys small houses with cash to rent out with proceeds from its other rentals.

Delta borrows money to buy fixer uppers and tries to refurbish them into an investment property.

United/AA leverages heavily and buys new construction condos and commercial realestate.

If the economy falters, company woes follow predictable paths.

Great analogy.


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