How are the Apps coming along? Any luck?
#261
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It's been a crazy 4yrs since the pandemic recovery. Hopefully we (as an industry) can catch the wave and glide in towards shore for quite a while and not cut into the face too sharp and suffer a roiling, thunderous, industry reconciliation.
#262
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There aren’t many deliveries happening right now. Airbus and Boeing both struggling with getting engines. You can order what you want, but the planes aren’t coming. By the time they do show up, they’ll be replacements.
#263
And don't forget that freight train of massive retirements. We may have hit the peek, but they are still happening. When deliveries of aircraft start ramping up, pilot hiring demand will be revealed, once again.
#264
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Orders are mostly future deliveries, not much the next few years. Holding on to their existing aircraft, the airlines are going to be short, relative to planned growth and desired aircraft retirements.
And don't forget that freight train of massive retirements. We may have hit the peek, but they are still happening. When deliveries of aircraft start ramping up, pilot hiring demand will be revealed, once again.
And don't forget that freight train of massive retirements. We may have hit the peek, but they are still happening. When deliveries of aircraft start ramping up, pilot hiring demand will be revealed, once again.
Plenty of time to get the Aviates, Cadets, 225, whatever flow programs up to full steam. By then the demand for already trained pilots from other airlines could be reduced significantly. Will it stop? No probably not. But it’s certainly more competitive and you’re behind thousands of 22 year olds.
Looking at the United pause as an example. “United Aviate and United Military will remain at the top of hiring priorities once new hire classes resume.”
I have no idea how much the flows contributed to the last few years of legacy hiring. 1500 per year??
#265
Remember WN attrition dropped to near 0 because people are waiting for the signing bonus. That may be giving management a false sense of security. The new contract is pretty good but the widebody urge remains strong for many.
The Max 7 is certainly a major problem for them but I suspect they will end up running a few classes.
The Max 7 is certainly a major problem for them but I suspect they will end up running a few classes.
#266
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You wouldn't know what I'm talking about. Stick to trolling.
#268
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Buddy of mine interviewed at AA. Had to fix his logbook and got the offer. AA is requiring leg-by-leg logging of flight time, at least for 121 time. Basically, folks going in with Flica reports logging day-by-day isn't going to be accepted any longer. Good luck.
#269
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Lol exactly why I don't want to leave. The fact that X years of experience flying an airbus for a 121 airline needs extra details beyond years and time in the seat is a joke. The days or scribbling pencil into green pages in a bound book are long gone. They can take the 1500 hour guys with nicer logbooks if they prefer. This industry....lol.
#270
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I’m about to work on my AApplication with them soon and this annoys me.
I remember when I filled mine out years ago under the old application system they wanted to know every single freaking thing about the airplane like how many times you farted in the seat too.
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