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Originally Posted by YellowBus (Post 3763030)

The appeal will be HEARD in June. Not a ruling in June.

Christ! I don’t understand why they can just handle this in the next couple weeks and get on with it. In the next 6 months TC and JB will do nothing to change this business for the better.

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Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3763044)

Can't deal with their pilot culture and I'm 38.

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I say again…..

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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3763192)

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I say again…..

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I don't get this either, especially since DELTA has hired THOUSANDS of younger guys & girls recently....

~~He could probably make more at Delta in 20 years than JB for 25.~~

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Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 3763317)

I don't get this either, especially since DELTA has hired THOUSANDS of younger guys & girls recently....

Its not like there's no truth to it, but its not a good reason to make life descisions.

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Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 3763317)

I don't get this either, especially since DELTA has hired THOUSANDS of younger guys & girls recently....

33% of our seniority list has been hired after Covid, starting in June 2021. 65% of the list has been hired since 1/2014. The old guard is definitely gone or close to being gone, especially on the narrowebody fleets.

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Originally Posted by fumeevented (Post 3763499)

Its not like there's no truth to it, but its not a good reason to make life descisions.

Even this is really stretching it a bit, especially here in modern times. Some guys are holding on to this relic of the past for some reason. Who factors "culture" into big life decisions? Most guys can't point to anything the big bad delta guy did to them, there's just a lot of herd mentality out there on this one.

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Originally Posted by DryClutch (Post 3763580)

The Delta culture has changed. Half the list was hired in the last 10 years. When pilots are upgrading to captain in less than a year, they never had any culture instilled in them in that short of time.

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Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3762570)

I'm at 4+ years, junior captain commuting to reserve. I was only staying because of the merger. I live local to NYC and really like jetBlue and their product; always have. Now that our hopes were smashed I'm getting out. No point in commuting to reserve (I F'ing hate with a passion) when I could be driving to work with any of the Big 3 and jetBlue.

For me, I got a bad feeling as soon as they announced the hiring/upgrade stoppage and NEO parking in November. I applied to United, my first choice. I finally got the invite for the Hogan Dec 30, completed it a week later, interviewing later this month.

Then, the day after the merger failed, I decided to apply off the street to jetBlue as well (I think they have a decent future once they dust themselves off and get their financials under control). They got back to me with an interview offer in, no joke, 24 hours flat. I'm interviewing there first and will call it a warm up for United, as well as my "safety school" in case United says no. Not interested in Delta. Applied to AA at the same time as UA but haven't heard from them. Also luke warm on AA; I've heard mediocre things.

But yea, I'm almost in the top 50% system seniority and it is a lot to give up. But I think this place is done.

I'm senior to you by a LOT and I'm doing the exact same thing. Good luck to you. These aren't easy decisions but I see no reason to stay here any longer.

Any Spirit pilots here have expieirience at Atlas? I would love to hear your thoughts of how the two compare

I am also trying to get off the boat, but being a low time junior guy I am not yet competitive for a legacy so regionals or ACMI are my choices.