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Old 10-23-2024 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
I can guarantee you that the ****s Merrick Garland and Jonathan Kanter, especially the latter, wanted to tank it. They are zealots that need to be unemployed.
Don't forget Lina Kahn, flip side of the same coin.

It's looking they'll all be unemployed on Jan 21st.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Snap up is #1 regardless if its a stand alone CBA or JCBA. No more "next time". Snap up is now industry standard.
Ah. So you want to freeload off of others’ hard work without actually raising the bar yourself. A true unionist.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
Ah. So you want to freeload off of others’ hard work without actually raising the bar yourself. A true unionist.
eh, he’s right. Snap up has become the standard.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
Ah. So you want to freeload off of others’ hard work without actually raising the bar yourself. A true unionist.
Whaaaaat!?!?
Tbh I would prefer to negotiate for 3 years and then be another cycle behind the industry 🤦
Yeah, I would prefer to have the snap up, and no it's not "freeloading"
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Old 10-24-2024 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
What color lanyard will that rally cry be?
Hahah management fears those orange lanyards so scary
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Old 10-24-2024 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
Whaaaaat!?!?
Tbh I would prefer to negotiate for 3 years and then be another cycle behind the industry 🤦
Yeah, I would prefer to have the snap up, and no it's not "freeloading"
No, snap up is not freeloading. It's a safety valve, why would you not want it? It's now become the standard.

Does the rest of the industry expect two merged airlines, one broke, both in an essentially failing business niche to set the new bar at DAL+30%? While already coming from behind? No. But at the very least a snap up, even if it's on a time delay, is better than nothing.

Personally I don't view F9/NK as leading the next round of pattern bargaining, but playing catch up from the last one. YMMV depending on who you talk to.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
Ah. So you want to freeload off of others’ hard work without actually raising the bar yourself. A true unionist.
AA, UAL, DAL, B6, WN, AS all have snap up no?
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Old 10-24-2024 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No, snap up is not freeloading. It's a safety valve, why would you not want it? It's now become the standard.

Does the rest of the industry expect two merged airlines, one broke, both in an essentially failing business niche to set the new bar at DAL+30%? While already coming from behind? No. But at the very least a snap up, even if it's on a time delay, is better than nothing.

Personally I don't view F9/NK as leading the next round of pattern bargaining, but playing catch up from the last one. YMMV depending on who you talk to.
F9 had minimum average of peers language prior to indigo. The problem with it was peers were listed as alaska America west and AirTran I believe. It became tough to argue the average of one number.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
F9 had minimum average of peers language prior to indigo. The problem with it was peers were listed as alaska America west and AirTran I believe. It became tough to argue the average of one number.
Maybe the heavy lift would be defining the peer group to include legacies. Or at least SWA.
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Old 10-24-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
https://www.wsj.com/business/airline...googlenewsfeed

Sounds like it’s getting close for F9/NK
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...-inquiry-state

Looks to me like they’re not done yet.
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