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10-22-2024 | 12:16 PM
#33
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From: NK CA
10-22-2024 | 01:09 PM
#34
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A bankruptcy contract will not yield higher rates for Spirit pilots. Many of us have been through a bankruptcy (or two) and know what happens in those situations.
But sure, be the angry man, you have it figured out. Good luck.
10-22-2024 | 01:25 PM
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You either misunderstood the rep, or he too feasted on paint chips as a child like yourself.
A bankruptcy contract will not yield higher rates for Spirit pilots. Many of us have been through a bankruptcy (or two) and know what happens in those situations.
But sure, be the angry man, you have it figured out. Good luck.
A bankruptcy contract will not yield higher rates for Spirit pilots. Many of us have been through a bankruptcy (or two) and know what happens in those situations.
But sure, be the angry man, you have it figured out. Good luck.
10-22-2024 | 02:01 PM
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Nope, he's a good friend of mine. We've talked about it a lot. Bankrupcy contract has been disscused in depth at meetings. What previous alpa contracts have been slashed in bankrupcy court when said airline was already making 20% less than their peers? (And no our peers are not Allegiant, Breeze, Avelo). Bankrupcy court ordered union contracts are not based on a company's business model.
10-22-2024 | 02:01 PM
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Nope, he's a good friend of mine. We've talked about it a lot. Bankrupcy contract has been disscused in depth at meetings. What previous alpa contracts have been slashed in bankrupcy court when said airline was already making 20% less than their peers? (And no our peers are not Allegiant, Breeze, Avelo). Bankrupcy court ordered union contracts are not based on a company's business model.
10-22-2024 | 02:12 PM
#38
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Best case scenario is an 1113 motion is filed by the company and the judge rejects it because the company did not show:
“ the authorized representative of the employees has refused to accept such proposal without good cause”
Spirit will say we make more than Frontier, Breeze, Avelo Allegiant and other lower paid airlines, so the 1113 motion should be approved
NK ALPA will say we make less than AA, DAL, UAL, HA, JBLU and Alaska, so the motion should be denied
Judge will decide. But there is NOTHING in code 1113 that allows a judge to increase pay. Besides the insanity of the notion, it isn’t the law. It’s either reject the CBA, or reject the motion.
10-22-2024 | 03:14 PM
#39
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Nothing prevents this, because it has been the opinion of the NMB in the past that Allegiant, Frontier, and Spirit should be peers as far as pilot compensation is concerned.
10-22-2024 | 03:16 PM
#40
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Haha. Like I said, dude eats paint chips. Worse is he believes this is accurate
Best case scenario is an 1113 motion is filed by the company and the judge rejects it because the company did not show:
“ the authorized representative of the employees has refused to accept such proposal without good cause”
Spirit will say we make more than Frontier, Breeze, Avelo Allegiant and other lower paid airlines, so the 1113 motion should be approved
NK ALPA will say we make less than AA, DAL, UAL, HA, JBLU and Alaska, so the motion should be denied
Judge will decide. But there is NOTHING in code 1113 that allows a judge to increase pay. Besides the insanity of the notion, it isn’t the law. It’s either reject the CBA, or reject the motion.
Best case scenario is an 1113 motion is filed by the company and the judge rejects it because the company did not show:
“ the authorized representative of the employees has refused to accept such proposal without good cause”
Spirit will say we make more than Frontier, Breeze, Avelo Allegiant and other lower paid airlines, so the 1113 motion should be approved
NK ALPA will say we make less than AA, DAL, UAL, HA, JBLU and Alaska, so the motion should be denied
Judge will decide. But there is NOTHING in code 1113 that allows a judge to increase pay. Besides the insanity of the notion, it isn’t the law. It’s either reject the CBA, or reject the motion.
That’s usually pay rates, retirements and sick. It’s tougher to get a judge to reject most work rules as they generally don’t understand how most work. which is why thier so valuable.
