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8JRMfortheyear 01-12-2025 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3870000)
There’s the caveat- early 40’s vs early 50’s. Not saying it’s an easier decision for you at all. You just have more years to make up the difference.


Yeah man, i just can't see myself late 40's early 50's still fighting for that bite of the apple. All the best man.

tallpilot 01-12-2025 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3870010)
Yeah man, i just can't see myself late 40's early 50's still fighting for that bite of the apple. All the best man.

It stinks but lots of pilots have had to start over mid career. It's been a good decade so we've forgotten about the bad old days.

MtoL 01-12-2025 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3869969)
Another consideration. Year 1 legacy giving up 4 or 5 vacations. Year 2 give up 2 or 3. Year three another 2 or 3 ect…. Never making those days off up for a career. Not to mention none of the legacies were able to get to 5 credit per day. It’s substantially less days off till 65. Not my choice just reality.

I’m not really understanding what’s you’re saying about the vacation thing. You start with 3 weeks of vacation at AA. 2 weeks at DL and UA.

Legacies are 5:15 average credit per day right now.

sioux8ships 01-12-2025 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3870010)
Yeah man, i just can't see myself late 40's early 50's still fighting for that bite of the apple. All the best man.

All the best to you as well!

fcoolaiddrinker 01-12-2025 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by MtoL (Post 3870020)
I’m not really understanding what’s you’re saying about the vacation thing. You start with 3 weeks of vacation at AA. 2 weeks at DL and UA.

Legacies are 5:15 average credit per day right now.

You start accruing 3 year one for the following year. Are you saying day one of ground school you have 3 available? Also, I’m not sure how you’re getting an average with PBS? Looks like your new agreement started at 3.67 and tops at 4.58 credit per day.

Personally, I have 4 weeks (28 days) at 5 credit per day this year and assuming nothing changes till 65 that will be true till then. Just looking at UAL for example. I would give up 16 weeks of vacation till I turn 65. That and according to a recent Alpa contract comparison UAL tops at 4.25 credit per vac day.

VacancyBid 01-12-2025 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by MtoL (Post 3870020)
Legacies are 5:15 average credit per day right now.

Perhaps he means credit for vacation days. 7 days of vacation doesn't credit 35 hours

8JRMfortheyear 01-12-2025 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3870014)
It stinks but lots of pilots have had to start over mid career. It's been a good decade so we've forgotten about the bad old days.


It was a good run for sure. Still ****ed off im put in this position.

fcoolaiddrinker 01-12-2025 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by MtoL (Post 3870020)
I’m not really understanding what’s you’re saying about the vacation thing. You start with 3 weeks of vacation at AA. 2 weeks at DL and UA.

Legacies are 5:15 average credit per day right now.

I believe you might be confusing rig with vac credit on your average? Just a guess. Vacation is a separate sec and is controlling in Alpa contracts. Not sure about APA?

Chimpy 01-12-2025 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3870027)
You start accruing 3 year one for the following year. Are you saying day one of ground school you have 3 available? Also, I’m not sure how you’re getting an average with PBS? Looks like your new agreement started at 3.67 and tops at 4.58 credit per day.

Personally, I have 4 weeks (28 days) at 5 credit per day this year and assuming nothing changes till 65 that will be true till then. Just looking at UAL for example. I would give up 16 weeks of vacation till I turn 65. That and according to a recent Alpa contract comparison UAL tops at 4.25 credit per vac day.

then Call out Sick, lol. Giving up Vacation at Nk absolutely was the worst part about leaving. All summer vacations etc. There are ways to get days off. I mean C’mon….. we’re pilots. 😂

Chimpy 01-12-2025 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3870034)
It was a good run for sure. Still ****ed off im put in this position.

yeah, but gives you a chance to see how the other half lives 😂.

listen, (especially with a family) leaving the money and seniority was absolutely brutal BUT, there are significant upsides. It’ll be aight


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