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CincoDeMayo 01-27-2025 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3875411)
I would assume that since they have canceled nearly 100 furloughs and 30 or so captain cancellations for this bid period, that the attrition numbers have been greatly exceeded.

And it’s going to increase too

AA has classes assigned now into March, so there are plenty of NK pilots with a class date/soon to be, and waiting for that two week mark to send in notice.

And honestly, why even give 2 weeks? Seems like guys would be better off waiting until the last day or so. I don’t recall anything contractually that allows a pilot to pull back their resignation if something happens to their class date. Guy gives 2 weeks, AA or UAL somehow cancels the class, NK says “nope, you resigned,” now you’re out on your butt.

Better would be to fly right before class date, drop your remaining trips, and drop letter of resignation after last trip. It’s not like they need to “train someone” to replace you.

Halon1211 01-27-2025 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3875422)
And it’s going to increase too

AA has classes assigned now into March, so there are plenty of NK pilots with a class date/soon to be, and waiting for that two week mark to send in notice.

And honestly, why even give 2 weeks? Seems like guys would be better off waiting until the last day or so. I don’t recall anything contractually that allows a pilot to pull back their resignation if something happens to their class date. Guy gives 2 weeks, AA or UAL somehow cancels the class, NK says “nope, you resigned,” now you’re out on your butt.

Better would be to fly right before class date, drop your remaining trips, and drop letter of resignation after last trip. It’s not like they need to “train someone” to replace you.

you are not entitled to your have your vacation payed out to you if you do not give at least 2 weeks notice…

no trolling on this one…it’s in the contract…

rickair7777 01-27-2025 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3875424)
you are not entitled to your have your vacation payed out to you if you do not give at least 2 weeks notice…

no trolling on this one…it’s in the contract…

That carrot/stick is typical of most contracts. I can even think of one that requires 30 days notice, anmd yes that bit a few folks in the butt at the start of covid.

checkgear 01-27-2025 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3875400)
Hey I hear other pilots getting water canon salutes for “Retiring” and going to another airline.

anybody know who I can message about getting mine set up before I leave?

I guess we’re getting water cannon salutes for making a good decision??

and I hear if you’re under the age of 40, you also get a ticker-tape parade through the terminal with a brass band.

I better get one too for my last day next month. Where do I submit a request?

I believe said captain was the LEC chair/vice chair for FLL/MCO and is heading to AA.

Noisecanceller 01-27-2025 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3875411)
I would assume that since they have canceled nearly 100 furloughs and 30 or so captain cancellations for this bid period, that the attrition numbers have been greatly exceeded.

Exceeded per the metric in the furlough MOU. I’m sure without that agreement they would not be canceling anything. They need to shed a ton of bodies. I would not expect any adjustment on furlough numbers outside what’s required by the MOU. I fully expect another round for fall 2025 if the doors are still open.

fw90 01-27-2025 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3875448)
I better get one too for my last day next month. Where do I submit a request?

I believe said captain was the LEC chair/vice chair for FLL/MCO and is heading to AA.

oh good he clearly resigned his union position when he got the CJO right?

CJO = GTF out of the union. No respect for someone who doesn’t immediately step down from their union position when they clearly aren’t 100%…

hercretired 01-27-2025 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by fw90 (Post 3875560)
oh good he clearly resigned his union position when he got the CJO right?

CJO = GTF out of the union. No respect for someone who doesn’t immediately step down from their union position when they clearly aren’t 100%…

joking right? these are the unique human species known as Pilots

Judge Smails 01-28-2025 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by fw90 (Post 3875560)
oh good he clearly resigned his union position when he got the CJO right?

CJO = GTF out of the union. No respect for someone who doesn’t immediately step down from their union position when they clearly aren’t 100%…

Show me on this doll where the union hurt you.

colonials13 01-28-2025 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3875717)
Show me on this doll where the union hurt you.

He's not wrong. We don't need someone representing us who's halfway out the door, especially now.

TadKrusty 01-28-2025 06:41 AM

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