I think you're missing the greater picture here. Allow me to expand on that...

We should not be beating ourselves up over the past and what could have been, but I think there is a lot to learn here moving forward. It was probably the best barganing environment that anyone of us will ever see in this career. Highly unlikely we ever see that again.

Best case scenario: We got a much more solid pay bump with extra goodies like snap up to industy average NB pay.

Worst case: We got nothing BUT we would have learned that much earlier on in the biggest legacy hiring wave in modern history. Attrition then opens up to the point that there may not even be much of an airline left for Jetblue's hypothetical merger (oh well, not our problem).

This should have been our line in the sand moment and this group chose mediocrity as usual. Not bad enough to give a lot of us the needed coersion to move on, but not great enough to get excited about either.

Just good ol' plain Jane vanilla living where every day is missionary Tuesday.


In the words of the late Sean Connery:

"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and ******* the prom queen."

There are a lot of losers at this airline. I see it on their faces when I walk through the terminal.

For some of us, it's not just money. It's time off, AND money. Driving to work and having Independence Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas off with my family at my pay at a legacy would be difficult to achieve in such short order. I could in theory get the money if upgrades stay low (they'll likely revert to the mean), eventually the time off. Getting both would be very difficult barring a massive expansion AND massive retirements ala Covid government funded buyouts that the legacies had.

This guy gets it! Thank you! Noise is just spreading NOISE. Im not even planning on upgrading either. Schedules and holidays are my priorities now.

Absolutely this.

and add that a minority passed the TA. I don’t know the exact numbers but there are ALOT of pilots now stuck with this sub par contract who were not eligible to even vote on the TA and whose concerns were blown off by the union. Each month that passed, another what 100+ potential NO voters became eligible as they weened off both probation and the food stamp lines.

Best bargaining environment and we got the best contract of any of our careers. Not as good as Delta. But neither is FEDEX or UPS. It’s still the Best contract by a long shot of our careers. But it should have been more? Sounds like complaining to me. The TA passed, there was plenty of time to leave, but you didn’t, why? What am I missing?

2 years later and people are still complaining about this 69% pass, one guy above saying the minority voted this is 🤔

Meanwhile the company is in Ch11, the proceedings are not going as easily as they hoped, company is still bleeding cash, pilots are bailing left and right for higher ground, and bond holders will soon own the airline outright, their plans unknown.

But sure…let’s act like it’s 2023 and the big concern being more money vs voting it down.

69% of eligible voters NOT 69% of the pilot group.

You mean the ones who have more skin in the game vs the short timers......works for me!

I think the PC babies have a song about this. It's called; waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

1604 pilots voted for
721 against.

You’re delusional if you think pilots with less than 1 year on property would have swung that by almost 900 votes “against”.