Spirit Now Sure As It Emerges From Bankruptcy
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Absolutely nothing. There was a bit of communication for a little while there about new products and marketing as well as town hall stuff etc. Seemed like there was some potential for success. But I think it all failed sadly. Can’t give away big fronts or even an exit row.
Talking to union reps only makes things seem even more grim. Management is focused on more of a militant approach to enforcement. Looking for reasons to discipline.
So basically all the signs of what anyone that’s been through the final stages of the life span of an airline. Really hope that I’m wrong about my overall feel though.
Talking to union reps only makes things seem even more grim. Management is focused on more of a militant approach to enforcement. Looking for reasons to discipline.
So basically all the signs of what anyone that’s been through the final stages of the life span of an airline. Really hope that I’m wrong about my overall feel though.
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Could be, but nobody knows for sure outside of the C suite.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
#95
Could be, but nobody knows for sure outside of the C suite.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
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Who said the premium offerings were unsuccessful. In fact I’d say the shift from the blocked center to more leg room in 7 rows is most likely a result of them now having data that more people are willing to pay more for a more premium product
#98
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Could be, but nobody knows for sure outside of the C suite.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
The other part about excessive disciplinary action is straight up not true. Pilots are getting in trouble for calling out sick upon notification of an assignment while sitting short call reserve. I would hardly call that militant enforcement.
That's a big no-no at any airline.
Some other airlines use a "sick if needed" policy; you call in sick and are only hit with the sick time if you were to be activated. It helps scheduling automatically skip a sick pilot and onto the next, prevents pilots from having to use sick time vs maybe not getting called, and ends the dog and pony show of sick calls as float vacation.
In the end, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Make it difficult on pilots to have flexibility while on reserve and this is what you get. CBA allows for sick calls fro any medical reason for you and/or family, so if a pilot uses the CBA correctly, let them NOI them all, its a scare tactic.
And finally, this is a company whose management has ran everyones career into the mountain, the can file for liquidation tomorrow and all that sick time is gone. Good for any pilot that is bringing some of that money home before it could be too late. These fools destroyed our careers, they get everything coming to them.
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I have nothing to counter. You are the one who made the claim that the new products seem to be failing, and I called you out on it because there is no data to support that theory. At least that I am aware of, but I will happily eat my own words if you can point to a metric that proves this to be true.
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