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Old 08-13-2025 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
JB has not made a nickel in years. So your solution was to tie 2 loosing companies together and that would fix everything? Please explain how?? The model doesnt work.

I don’t know much but my guess was scale to sell more credit cards. Hoping for the best for you all!
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Old 08-13-2025 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LearPilot88
AA could just pay cash if they wanted to…
TBH… AA, spirit, frontier all have a similar product 😂. Isom is just so bad.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
Spirit has risen. New BOD has some merger talent.
This post isn’t aging well. I know you were trying to be clever and counter the other post.

That being said, it’s not over until it’s over. US Airways was less than a week from shutting down at one point I believe.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Workhard
TBH… AA, spirit, frontier all have a similar product 😂. Isom is just so bad.
You ever sit in the back of a United aircraft?
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Old 08-13-2025 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LongHornFlyer
I don’t disagree with any of this…what I don’t understand is, why wait and burn through another $250M (or any amount for that matter) if the most likely outcome at this point is liquidation? If they don’t see a viable path forward, why not pull the plug now and keep as much as they can?

Because they still have the possibility of finding a suitor or some other hope under a second BK. Obviously they’re going to want to reduce costs further. What’s really bizarre is why didn’t they have a “real” BK the first time around. They had to have known they weren’t going to make money. I guess maybe not so obvious.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
JB has not made a nickel in years. So your solution was to tie 2 loosing companies together and that would fix everything? Please explain how?? The model doesnt work.
I wasn’t arguing the merits of the merger. I was arguing the poster who claimed that this was the B6 plan all along.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Busdriver999
Management doesn't care about that. It's all about the merger bonuses and sweet stock option awards for the new managers. There's been worse mergers out there like AOL and Verizon. They still go through because management sees the juicy bonuses and the investment bankers see the fat fees. I bet AA will be interested, because it fits their low cost provider business model and they fly the Airbus.and AA loves debt, even to the detriment of it's shareholders.
None of this is true. You just threw up a bunch of generalities but they don't apply in this case.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
I would imagine every carrier out there is running the numbers on making an offer to purchase. You just never know what will transpire and where things will end up.

It can't be bought for the market cap though. That is just the outstanding stock. I'd bet $100, those who invested during the bankruptcy have a majority share and the stock is just like 10% ownership or some such. Buying all outstanding shares will not result in taking control of Spirit.
This is an easy one. There is no value there and you are just buying $2B in debt that has to be satisfied. There are no assets and integrating crews, reconfigurating planes, etc would be painful. The most likely choice is that everyone is waiting for the CH7 liquidation to buy some assets at a discount without the debt of the whole enterprise. Probably some gates and possibly planes. This is why the other airlines stocks were up 10% yesterday and Spirit was down 40%. Nobody will "acquire" Spirit because its not actually cheap. Its incredibly expensive. The best thing for any airline would be its largest competitor buying Spirit in whole. It would be a huge drag on their business.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Plus, all of the big 3 lose money on their flying.
This is not true at all. United made less than $2B TOTAL in credit card revenue in 2024, yet the net profit was over $4B. Also that $2B wasn't just free cash. It all had a cost associated with it because United actually had to fly people around to be paid that money that was redeemed from earned miles.

This whole myth is ridiculous. Its not much different than chemtrails or the aircraft fuel conspiracies on the internet.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
You ever sit in the back of a United aircraft?
If it’s the airplane with the old interior, probably worse 😂 Our new airplanes with the IFEs are nice. Even the interior in the 757 is better imho, wifi just suck though
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