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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
This whole myth is ridiculous. It’s not much different than chemtrails or the aircraft fuel conspiracies on the internet.
You mean Jet A ISN’T a byproduct of Soylent Green production?
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
I’m sure most Spirit passengers are poring over that 10K filing.
Nor would passengers at any airline.
Social media is blowing up with FB posts about not booking on Spirit. I bet future booking are dismal.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LearPilot88
AA could just pay cash if they wanted to…
This would be perfect for American. Pay $2B for about $50M in enterprise value.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Because they still have the possibility of finding a suitor or some other hope under a second BK. Obviously they’re going to want to reduce costs further. What’s really bizarre is why didn’t they have a “real” BK the first time around. They had to have known they weren’t going to make money. I guess maybe not so obvious.
only reason for last ch11 was a $1.2 billion bond they didn't have money to pay back and unable to refinance. I doubt they would've even qualified for a real ch11. the company still had cash. but teddy lost hundreds of millions since that.......

now they are actually out of cash within this quarter probably, definitely within q4. without fresh capital a real ch11 is imminent.

the credit card processing company is getting nervous. if they pull the plug it creates a $950 million liquidity disaster and the company is history.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
This is an easy one. There is no value there and you are just buying $2B in debt that has to be satisfied. There are no assets and integrating crews, reconfigurating planes, etc would be painful. The most likely choice is that everyone is waiting for the CH7 liquidation to buy some assets at a discount without the debt of the whole enterprise. Probably some gates and possibly planes. This is why the other airlines stocks were up 10% yesterday and Spirit was down 40%. Nobody will "acquire" Spirit because its not actually cheap. Its incredibly expensive. The best thing for any airline would be its largest competitor buying Spirit in whole. It would be a huge drag on their business.
Good thing you are on the Spirit and Jet Blue forums enlightening all with your vast knowledge of airline mergers and economics./s

You were at United while it was teetering in bankruptcy. Think about how you would have felt when reading “hard truths” from a pilot employed by a profitable carrier. I’m guessing you would have appreciated it as much as the NK and B6 folks do now.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
You ever sit in the back of a United aircraft?
You mean the airline with 2 free carryons, seat selection, free snacks, inflight entertainment, larger network with backup flights, flexibility to change tickets for roughly the same price?
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sl0wr0ll3r
Good thing you are on the Spirit and Jet Blue forums enlightening all with your vast knowledge of airline mergers and economics./s

You were at United while it was teetering in bankruptcy. Think about how you would have felt when reading “hard truths” from a pilot employed by a profitable carrier. I’m guessing you would have appreciated it as much as the NK and B6 folks do now.
Nothing I am saying is untrue. I have been saying this is going to happen and its happening. And yes, a lot of people were rooting for United to fail and we didn't.
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
JB has not made a nickel in years. So your solution was to tie 2 loosing companies together and that would fix everything? Please explain how?? The model doesnt work.
Sir, loosing =/= losing. Also, how were delta/northwest financials pre-merge? US/AA? UA/CO? Not saying B6/NK was a winning combination or a good idea (imo there would have still been a BK for that combined airline), but, consolidation tends to help struggling airlines in 2 major ways (scale increase/competition decrease).
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Old 08-13-2025 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
You mean the airline with 2 free carryons, seat selection, free snacks, inflight entertainment, larger network with backup flights, flexibility to change tickets for roughly the same price?
😂😂 2 “Free” carryons, “Free” seat selection, “Free” snacks, “Free” inflight entertainment…this guy drinks the marketing cool aid. How much did that “Free” stuff cost, bub? You’re like the guy who pays insurance premiums for 20 years with no claims, gets in a wreck and tells everyone that insurance paid everything to fix it…then they jack up your premiums 😆
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Old 08-13-2025 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Nothing I am saying is untrue.
The point is it doesn’t need to be said. Being right doesn’t make you less of a toolbag.
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