Spirit Now Sure As It Emerges From Bankruptcy
#541
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not sure why you bring me into this as I’ve said nothing to you at all. There was a time when you accused me of being the instigator and unprofessional. Yet here you are, mentioning me as having “learned my lesson” when I’ve said nothing to you or even about you, at all.
#542
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Because you said the exact same things he’s saying, when I was giving a warning. Exactly the same stuff, and then the next week, after you’d been telling me how wrong about furloughs I was, you didn’t come back for a while to face your comments towards me. If you’d like to pretend that didn’t happen, based on your “I’ve said nothing to you” comment, that’s fine. I’m sure Mr president will act the same way.
#543
Well, the intial number I heard isn’t small, but we obviously have people that don’t understand that the intial number, and final number are almost never the same, and that also it takes some additional time to get that number down. So, since people can’t comprehend that, I’ll guess we will see when it’s announced.
#544
🤦🏻♂️ you’re not very sharp. Don’t say you weren’t warned, or what’s on the horizon is a surprise. Born2fly learned this lesson too. You’ve obviously got it all figured out, and there’s nothing to see here. Move along. Nothing but clear sky’s and tailwinds ahead.
And just so you can understand your short sighted arrogance. Have you ever thought that some pilots have serious health issues in their family, that staying on their current insurance and keeping a good schedule was more important than leaving? No…..you didn’t. Because you can’t see past your own self to realize that there’s a whole world spinning out there for other people. As I’ve said before, good luck. I think you’re going to it with the self centered attitude you have going.
And just so you can understand your short sighted arrogance. Have you ever thought that some pilots have serious health issues in their family, that staying on their current insurance and keeping a good schedule was more important than leaving? No…..you didn’t. Because you can’t see past your own self to realize that there’s a whole world spinning out there for other people. As I’ve said before, good luck. I think you’re going to it with the self centered attitude you have going.
#545
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Credit Card reform. As mush as I’m a republican, the Biden administration saw this as something they were going to address. It will eventually be addressed.
Imagine a US Airways/NorthWest/Continental/AmericaWest APC forum. Rumor posts would be wild!
Imagine a US Airways/NorthWest/Continental/AmericaWest APC forum. Rumor posts would be wild!
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#546
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If we had a leader as a CEO we wouldn’t be on edge. There is no direction but down at this point.
#547
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well at this point then the best option is parking it all and just zeroing out since they can’t figure out that full and oversold planes means we are charging too little. But what do I know, only that in my business when I don’t make a profit I don’t get paid. And if I’m too busy I raise my prices until I’m as busy as I want to be… you know common sense stuff. Also remember our new CEO came from a place made most of their money on cargo contracts (Amazon) and charter flights. With only a small percent of scheduled 121 passengers to think about.
#548
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Just to add, it doesn't really cost you much to apply and interview. You don't have to take the job if you are offered one. Generally, CJOs are good for a year+, so you can wait it out at Spirit and still have something in your back pocket. It seems like Boeing has cranked up production and will actually start delivering airplanes again, so the legacies should be ramping up hiring again.
Some of those guys took 80% paycuts and now work every weekend and holiday.
I know I won’t tell a legacy no and right now can’t in good conscience tell them yes. We need to know what the plan is for Spirit. The thing that keeps me somewhat optimistic is when you are owed $2B you don’t liquidate an airline that owns next to nothing if there is any shot someone else sees value in the enterprise. You also don’t tell a purchaser no unless you think you can get more at a later date or from someone else, which is what they did twice.
In the mean time they have some airplanes that have value and aren’t leased. I’d expect to see those go and furloughs to happen. They need the cash to keep the fuel flowing in the near term. Simple as that.
#549
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The fact that you think your peers medical situations deserve an “lmao” just speaks more about you. I’ve given enough information about myself now, that people who know me, know. You’re still hiding behind a screen name, and can’t understand that you don’t know everything, yet continue to tell people how to live their lives. Many refer to your behavior as narcissistic, and I fully expect you to not be able to admit you’re wrong. I’m calling it now, but I digress.
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#550
This actually isn’t true. Many quite senior folks that left in the last round thought they would have more answers. Thought surely by their class dates they would know if Spirit would live or die in the near future. They never got those answers. You can’t push your class that far these days. Once you tell them no you don’t get another shot.
Some of those guys took 80% paycuts and now work every weekend and holiday.
I know I won’t tell a legacy no and right now can’t in good conscience tell them yes. We need to know what the plan is for Spirit. The thing that keeps me somewhat optimistic is when you are owed $2B you don’t liquidate an airline that owns next to nothing if there is any shot someone else sees value in the enterprise. You also don’t tell a purchaser no unless you think you can get more at a later date or from someone else, which is what they did twice.
In the mean time they have some airplanes that have value and aren’t leased. I’d expect to see those go and furloughs to happen. They need the cash to keep the fuel flowing in the near term. Simple as that.
Some of those guys took 80% paycuts and now work every weekend and holiday.
I know I won’t tell a legacy no and right now can’t in good conscience tell them yes. We need to know what the plan is for Spirit. The thing that keeps me somewhat optimistic is when you are owed $2B you don’t liquidate an airline that owns next to nothing if there is any shot someone else sees value in the enterprise. You also don’t tell a purchaser no unless you think you can get more at a later date or from someone else, which is what they did twice.
In the mean time they have some airplanes that have value and aren’t leased. I’d expect to see those go and furloughs to happen. They need the cash to keep the fuel flowing in the near term. Simple as that.
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