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Old 07-23-2025 | 07:20 AM
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Supposedly union and company are meeting to work through details with an announcement possibly coming soon.

I don’t have faith in management like this that seems to be micro focused on costs forgetting that revenue is just as important. Sure there are cuts to be made but we need revenue.

and I have no faith the union will attempt any kind of real negotiation
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Old 07-23-2025 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fw90
Supposedly union and company are meeting to work through details with an announcement possibly coming soon.

I don’t have faith in management like this that seems to be micro focused on costs forgetting that revenue is just as important. Sure there are cuts to be made but we need revenue.

and I have no faith the union will attempt any kind of real negotiation
Real negotiation? As in concessions? I’m sure management will ask and I hope your MEC says no. Cutting pilot pay/benefits won’t stop anything.
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Old 07-23-2025 | 08:04 AM
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Real negotiation? As in concessions? I’m sure management will ask and I hope your MEC says no. Cutting pilot pay/benefits won’t stop anything.
I’m guessing furlough stuff
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Old 07-23-2025 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
And the attitude that if we don’t end up at a legacy that we might as well just hang up our wings. How boring. There’s plenty of other jobs out there.
Yea but not good ones
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Old 07-23-2025 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fw90
Supposedly union and company are meeting to work through details with an announcement possibly coming soon.

I don’t have faith in management like this that seems to be micro focused on costs forgetting that revenue is just as important. Sure there are cuts to be made but we need revenue.

and I have no faith the union will attempt any kind of real negotiation
Meeting when? Now? Yesterday? Next week? Of course they would meet Captain obvious.

Did you put that second paragraph in the survey the company not Alpa put out?

The new CEO was a CFO. They have no idea of how to generate revenue. Zero! They only know costs.
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Old 07-23-2025 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Meeting when? Now? Yesterday? Next week? Of course they would meet Captain obvious.

Did you put that second paragraph in the survey the company not Alpa put out?

The new CEO was a CFO. They have no idea of how to generate revenue. Zero! They only know costs.
🤷‍♂️ I assume sooner than later.

and THAT is the reason why we will fail. As Dave Ramsey says your INCOME is the most powerful tool to building wealth or getting out of debt. And he didn’t even come up with it.
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Old 07-23-2025 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fw90
🤷‍♂️ I assume sooner than later.

and THAT is the reason why we will fail. As Dave Ramsey says your INCOME is the most powerful tool to building wealth or getting out of debt. And he didn’t even come up with it.
You put in for CEO yet? Make sure to mention Dave Ramsey quotes in your interview with the BOD
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Old 07-23-2025 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

The new CEO was a CFO. They have no idea of how to generate revenue. Zero! They only know costs.
Did they 86 the marketing team? The CEO doesn’t “generate revenue”. They facilitate and orchestrate the process through a diverse team of people and resources.

One hand says “ the industry/model is dead and not viable”

The other hand says Spirit as a company is incapable of becoming profitable.

Which is it? If the model is dead, obviously no one could succeed. Odd that F9 and Allegiant aren’t dead. Clearly NK serves a completely different market but the same customer. One thing sets NK aside from other competitors though. The 1-2 punch with the JBU debacle and the GTF problem. Of which neither challenge could be easily managed by even the most talented management group.
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Old 07-23-2025 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
Buddy; it’s the ‘I know better attitude’. Thanks but no thanks. Those of us ‘sinking’ on the ship don’t need the savin’ from the genius that got on a life boat. Now leave before we swamp your boats! We’re treading in the water just fine.
All you managed to say is that you don’t want to be “saved” from people who got out when we saw the writing on the wall. You don’t even want to set yourself up with options by applying. Talk about prideful.

Good luck
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Old 07-23-2025 | 09:22 AM
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[QUOTE=SoFloFlyer;3931029]All you managed to say is that you don’t want to be “saved” from people who got out when we saw the writing on the wall. You don’t even want to set yourself up with options by applying. Talk about prideful.
You are in no position to save anyone buddy. That’s been the point and will always be the point. Talk about being prideful, lol. Keep all your luck to yourself. I’m gonna go ahead and speak for the Spirit forum, beat
it. We don’t need your repetitive advice day in day out.
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