This right here is the perfect example of someone who unfortunately listened to an old timer pilot/thought they had union insider info/based their decision on the info they had. Yikes! Additionally, American ain’t allowing class date delays anymore. At best the poor guy is giving outdated info and doesn’t realize it anymore, at worst he’s lying.

Why would voluntary furloughs be treated any differently than involuntary? Somebody is still here on property getting a (concessionary) paycheck because someone else volunteered, right?

Can’t speak for AA, never even applied there. But you are right, I DID listen to my old timer NK CAs who said three years ago that if they had as little time at NK as I did, they’d put out apps in a heartbeat. And I valued their advice and did it.

Look, I realize that it’s a whole lot harder if you are giving up 10-12 years than if you are giving up 2 and a half, but economically I’m already at the break even point and my leaving meant one less more junior guy had to be furloughed.

So don’t worry about the “poor guy”, he’s a lineholder, already under 40% in seat, and although I might never make WBCA I’m looking at NBCA in a year or so, long before I’d have made it with NK furloughing and displacing people. I enjoyed my time at NK and was treated well there, but for me following the advice of those “old timer pilots” to put out apps was unequivocally the right thing to do.

None of which means I don’t have empathy for senior people who have built their lives around their current base and seniority. I understand not wanting to take a big economic hit with a potential base change and potential loss of QOL from starting all over again. I absolutely understand.

Their situation truly sucks, but it won’t be improved by somehow pretending it doesn’t suck.

Cheerleader, no. Eyes wide open, yes. I didn't even leave NK until the very end of 2025. Even stuck it out through two failed mergers and the first bankruptcy and thought things would at least be treading water-ish until that 2Q came out in August....

I’m enjoying watching everyone whose name is on the list slowly trickle in to defend themselves.
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What's the saying about counting your chickens?

I made a personal choice to leave. I have many good friends still there I do still care about. Only wanted to correct the "cheerleading" implication.

What I say and do is based on my own logical analysis and thoughts, not cheerleading or wishing for a bad outcome for anyone else.

The earlier they left, the longer the post about why they left, they leave.

They come home to roost? Be careful, the FAA thankfully stepped in where you’re concerned.

I am offended I was left off
please put me down for “by the end of 2026”