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iFly7X7 01-01-2026 11:46 AM

01/01/26 means nothing!

Revenue in 1Q, which is historically very low in the industry, will be the deciding factor on Spirit's survival, bar being acquired. I don't see them making it into March without some further bail out miracle or being purchased. There's just no path to the spring break ramp up for revenue.

fumeevented 01-01-2026 12:17 PM

Aww, I didn't make the list.

flier320 01-01-2026 12:18 PM

the company is floating on DIP financing at this point. and its maturing July 14th.

unless there is a miracle turn-around over the next 6 months the company will not have enough money to pay back the DIP and exit bankruptcy. this is a problem because DIP financing takes super priority.

from prior experience, when management pilots starts leaving the end is near.....

also not getting the full trench of DIP financing during the last scare doesn't make me fell all warm and fuzzy.

WHACKMASTER 01-01-2026 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by TheCalmCaptain (Post 3987129)
In just a few hours it will be 2026 and I’m proud to announce, Kirby was wrong! We are still here and more resilient and determined than ever. Kirby tried everything to put us out of business from mirroring our à la cart business model, undercutting prices on our routes, obsessively bad mouthing us, failed attempt to purchase targeted assets and last but not least teaming up with JetBlue to drive our FLL yields down. Well, we’re still here!

I’m so proud of this “down with the ship” pilot group. 2026 is going to be a great year for us!

Below is the list of the relentless “Spirit is liquidating by the end of 2025” cheerleaders.

Sorry guys, you were wrong.

Noisecaceller
SSlow
Flyokish
Name user
Friendly pilot
Nry8
Busboi
StoneQOLdcrazy
LNAVVNAVPATH
DIRKDIGGLER9999
GPULLRSHRSAILPLANES
CINCODEMAYO
Fettywap
Putzin
FW90
Halon1211
Washout
Symbian simian
Jules Winfield
Bluejuice01
Washout
Bluespoon
BoeingBrat
TAFsMATTER
PowderKeg
Checkgear
flier320
Jac3d

What mental illness looks like ^^^^^

Lincoln Osiris 01-01-2026 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3987456)
What mental illness looks like ^^^^^

I mean to be fair how would you feel if people from other airlines came on the SWA forums daily to tell you how you weren't going to have a job soon? The obsession with the Spirit forums from those who don't even work here since the second bankruptcy will forever baffle me.

CincoDeMayo 01-01-2026 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3987463)
I mean to be fair how would you feel if people from other airlines came on the SWA forums daily to tell you how you weren't going to have a job soon? The obsession with the Spirit forums from those who don't even work here since the second bankruptcy will forever baffle me.

Imagine if there was a safe space where you only hear what you want to hear and nothing you don’t.

Popeye0537 01-01-2026 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3987200)
I believe those regionals only allowed you to retain longevity and pay, not seniority.

Republic allowed you 1 yr to come back at full seniority, and 5 yrs to come back at 50%. Stipulation was you need to fly a larger aircraft than they had on property ie bus/boeing

BusBoi 01-01-2026 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Popeye0537 (Post 3987505)
Republic allowed you 1 yr to come back at full seniority, and 5 yrs to come back at 50%. Stipulation was you need to fly a larger aircraft than they had on property ie bus/boeing

Expressjet had the same, though I think it was just 1 year. It was called the soft landing policy.

Shrek 01-01-2026 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by jack3d (Post 3987147)
Incoming thread drift....

So let's say NK gets bought by a real airline (not Frontier) in the near future.

Can SPA ALPA negotiate a clause that lets all of the pilots who left during the BKs make a return for the new airline?

I recently heard of some airlines allowing pilots to come back and retain seniority, pay, etc if done within something like 6 months.

I know that starting over is a voluntary event, but it feels like a lot of us really didn't have much of a choice this specific effed up situation.

Not a chance….

SoFloFlyer 01-01-2026 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by jack3d (Post 3987393)
That's kind of what I was curious about. It's not exactly way out of left field then.

Not suggesting that it should be that way as I know there are varying opinions either way, but thanks for confirming that is has definitely happened before at certain carriers.

No worries. Kinda in left field, but almost unheard of at other carriers. RPA is also Teamster, not ALPA. Not sure if that plays a roll in having that in the contract for them or not


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