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Old Yesterday | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
This industry is about the unexpected happening and being able to deal with the unexpected. The oil price isn’t even that high when compared to previous “high oil” events. In the end, the Iran war was just the final light breeze that would have pushed the Jenga tower that is Spirit, over. That’s the industry.

Spirit will get their $500m bailout, and it will open the Pandora’s box of open hands from other airlines. Let that begging begin.
I can’t see any other airlines being willing to give up a 90% stake in their own company, or the creditors being happy to relinquish primary compensation rights if it’s not necessary.
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Old Yesterday | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stankhunt42
Lol no was not. Not even close. You are funny guy
Spirit had exited BK and had a slim chance. Trump starting a war that sent fuel prices through the roof has airlines worldwide on edge.

The war absolutely screwed Spirit.

Best of luck to all the Spirit employees.
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Old Yesterday | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MtoL
Spirit had exited BK and had a slim chance. Trump starting a war that sent fuel prices through the roof has airlines worldwide on edge.

The war absolutely screwed Spirit.

Best of luck to all the Spirit employees.

spirit most definitely had NOT exited bankruptcy.
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Old Yesterday | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
spirit most definitely had NOT exited bankruptcy.
well….technically they exited the first….but not the second.
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Old Yesterday | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MtoL
Spirit had exited BK and had a slim chance. Trump starting a war that sent fuel prices through the roof has airlines worldwide on edge.

The war absolutely screwed Spirit.

Best of luck to all the Spirit employees.
Spirit had no way of making the DIP repayment of 475 million coming up in July. The war was unfortunate, but it only fast tracked the inevitable.
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Old Yesterday | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by flier320
Spirit had no way of making the DIP repayment of 475 million coming up in July. The war was unfortunate, but it only fast tracked the inevitable.
That's not true, the confirmation plan laid out exactly what they would do with the DIP lenders. (They would be mostly equitized) Though it also assumed the elevated fuel prices would settle back towards $2.35 in mid-May which was obviously in hindsight unrealistic. But if the Iran War did not happen Citibank would likely have not filed the objection (their main issue was the fuel price) and the confirmation hearing would've proceeded.
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Old Yesterday | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by havoste
That's not true, the confirmation plan laid out exactly what they would do with the DIP lenders. (They would be mostly equitized) Though it also assumed the elevated fuel prices would settle back towards $2.35 in mid-May which was obviously in hindsight unrealistic. But if the Iran War did not happen Citibank would likely have not filed the objection (their main issue was the fuel price) and the confirmation hearing would've proceeded.
Don’t forget about the massive amounts of premium that were being dished out and continue to be paid out, oh and all the cancellations. This is after the projections that were already questionable. Sorry they would have never made it.
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Old Today | 01:38 AM
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The BK court would not let Spirit exit because there is no viable business plan. They have yet to show a realistic case of being profitable.
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Old Today | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
The BK court would not let Spirit exit because there is no viable business plan. They have yet to show a realistic case of being profitable.
the other unfortunate part is I’d imagine future bookings are taking a hit with the recent media attention.
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