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Agratefulflyer 05-02-2026 06:28 AM

Couldn’t reply to 69fastback and skigambia on the last now closed thread so I’ll do it here! You guys need to get your heads checked. This is a terrible time for all of us and we all should be sympathetic yet vigilant. You two losers need to get real

nene 05-02-2026 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 4030503)
🤔😔😔😔😔 wouldn’t wish this on anyone….. hang tough look forward to a legacy future 🙏

For all you youngins, welcome to the industry. Many have been furloughed, fired, or employer folded before you and many more will. That is capitalism at its essence.

The good news is Spirit is folding during an incredible hiring spurt by the remaining airlines, so you'll all land on your feet and in a few years may grow to love your new circumstance even better.

Imagine being furloughed into an industry where EVERYONE is furloughing, airlines were folding, oil was REALLY spiking (I remember reading a industry newsletter where they proclaimed that "peak oil" had been obtained where the price was gonna rise to over $300/barrel by the end of the decade) and most existing airlines were parking 3pilot domestic planes in favor of 2 pilot ones ie the 2000's.

rickair7777 05-02-2026 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 4030575)
For all you youngins, welcome to the industry. Many have been furloughed, fired, or employer folded before you and many more will. That is capitalism at its essence.

The good news is Spirit is folding during an incredible hiring spurt by the remaining airlines, so you'll all land on your feet and in a few years may grow to love your new circumstance even better.

Imagine being furloughed into an industry where EVERYONE is furloughing, airlines were folding, oil was REALLY spiking (I remember reading a industry newsletter where they proclaimed that "peak oil" had been obtained where the price was gonna rise to over $300/barrel by the end of the decade) and most existing airlines were parking 3pilot domestic planes in favor of 2 pilot ones ie the 2000's.

Yes. Very sorry this happened but there is a bright spot and it's basically mass legacy retirements. Even if you don't to another 121, that demand signal for experienced pilots will create opportunities in other aviation sectors. Some of those will want you to start on Monday, not go in a pool and wait for background checks and class dates.

As a new pilot weeks after 9/11 I remember being told by an old hand that I wouldn't be able to get a job with 30,000 hours and type rating on the space shuttle. This is not that.

Casualinterest 05-02-2026 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 4030575)
For all you youngins, welcome to the industry. Many have been furloughed, fired, or employer folded before you and many more will. That is capitalism at its essence.

The good news is Spirit is folding during an incredible hiring spurt by the remaining airlines, so you'll all land on your feet and in a few years may grow to love your new circumstance even better.

Imagine being furloughed into an industry where EVERYONE is furloughing, airlines were folding, oil was REALLY spiking (I remember reading a industry newsletter where they proclaimed that "peak oil" had been obtained where the price was gonna rise to over $300/barrel by the end of the decade) and most existing airlines were parking 3pilot domestic planes in favor of 2 pilot ones ie the 2000's.

nothing quite like a tragedy to bring out the “you think you’ve got it bad” crowd…

symbian simian 05-02-2026 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 4030581)
nothing quite like a tragedy to bring out the “you think you’ve got it bad” crowd…

When I was young I was furloughed uphill, in the rain, both ways. That made me the tone deaf idiot I am now.

Tayo826 05-02-2026 08:25 AM

Contrary to what a now-locked thread said, Scott Kirby was (unfortunately) right.

Tinpusher007 05-02-2026 08:28 AM

So sorry for the way things have turned out for all of you at Spirit. This industry can unfortunately be very brutal at times. I wish you all the very best in your future endeavors. Thank you all for your service to the profession. Blue skies ahead and tailwinds behind you!!!

rickair7777 05-02-2026 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Tayo826 (Post 4030592)
Contrary to what a now-locked thread said, Scott Kirby was (unfortunately) right.

Not terribly surprising. Regardless of what you think of his dress code, he is a competent manager who's very familiar with the industry. He had more credibility than the various con artists and shysters involved in NK's finances and future.

nene 05-02-2026 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 4030581)
nothing quite like a tragedy to bring out the “you think you’ve got it bad” crowd…

First: Spirit Airlines shutting down is not a “tragedy”. It is capitalism correcting the market. You either offer a product people wantt or you perish, been that way largely for 250yrs in the us.

it’s about perspective. Wallowing in what was, does not help. Even when times were bleak it’s important to see this as an opportunity for something even potentially better.

Those who like to just sit and complain about mgmt, the govt, and even other pilots generally haven’t done enough to help themselves which is far more rewarding in life.

yes some of us are older and more experienced on the industry and have been in the exact position thousands of pilots find themselves in currently, but if you take control of your own destiny, you can often turn lemons into lemonaid even if by accident.

nitefr8dog 05-02-2026 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 4030581)
nothing quite like a tragedy to bring out the “you think you’ve got it bad” crowd…

He is not wrong though, anyone left at Spirit that did not bounce in the last few years, was very foolish. It's not like this mess happened overnight.


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