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Qotsaautopilot 01-28-2015 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1814031)
Generally, I agree, but only to a certain extent. There is a limit to uniform adhesion when the weather is actively trying to kill you.

That being said, I don't condone black sneakers. I don't condone white socks. I don't condone walking around with a friggin backpack like you're off to high school...

Usually I'm sporting the company issued blazer, and when the leaves on the trees turn purdy colors I wear the leather jacket. But when the snow starts blowing sideways? All bets are off on outerwear.

Dramatic much? The weather is not going to kill you on a five minute walk around or walking from the hotel van to the front door. I'm as ***** as it gets when it comes to cold living in FL my whole life, it's built in. Nonetheless, I did walk arounds MSP last winter when it was literally 20 below in my blazer and gloves. I was trying to hold until the company paid for a leather jacket but that was a bit chilly so I caved and bought one. Moral of the story is I didn't die. Wear the uniform and stop being a little *****

gringo 01-28-2015 08:18 PM

Yeah, prolly right.

The Juice 01-28-2015 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 1814096)
Yeah, prolly right.

Haha. Yeah man, we aren't cross the Oregon trail, we are making a circle around an airplane.

Merlyn 01-28-2015 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1814106)
Haha. Yeah man, we aren't cross the Oregon trail, we are making a circle around an airplane.

I've been chilled in a lot of places flying Cobras in the Cav, sleeping under the tail boom, eating roots and berries and painting my face green. But the coldest I've ever been in my whole life was a walk around on an MD-80, in January in Detroit.

JoeyMeatballs 01-29-2015 03:49 AM

You pansies need to man up. Wear a scarf and gloves and just rush the walk around like me :)

gonyon 01-29-2015 05:26 AM

The main thing is to make sure you have an accurate door code before exiting the jet bridge door when below 40 degrees (desert rat here)

gonyon 01-29-2015 05:27 AM

Captains be like "lemme just fire up this APU.. Fixed it"

serhito 01-29-2015 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 1813677)

I flew with a captain who is a pleasure to fly with, friendly, sharp and a great pilot but wears those damn black reeboks.....

Don't know if I am the recipient for this remark. I do wear this kind of looking shoes. Are they comfortable ? Yes. Professional looking ? Maybe not. It always makes me smile at the fashion police trying to establish that this is the way to be a professional pilot. Not a word about somebody who is up to date with current procedures, who has opened the books a little more often than 2 weeks prior to upgrade, or 2 days prior to a PC.
This kind of professionalism is what you owe your passenger, your family and yourself.

BTW, If I am indeed the recipient, either tell me my shoes don't look professional (when we fly) or don't even mention it on a public forum. That's also professionalism.

bubi352 01-29-2015 06:19 AM

I am totally with you regarding being current and knowing your airplane. But in all fairness, if you admit this is not professional wearing these type of shoes, why do you do it? Why be a professional in one area and not in another? Come on. You can do better than that, no?

gonyon 01-29-2015 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by serhito (Post 1814234)
Don't know if I am the recipient for this remark. I do wear this kind of looking shoes. Are they comfortable ? Yes. Professional looking ? Maybe not. It always makes me smile at the fashion police trying to establish that this is the way to be a professional pilot. Not a word about somebody who is up to date with current procedures, who has opened the books a little more often than 2 weeks prior to upgrade, or 2 days prior to a PC.
This kind of professionalism is what you owe your passenger, your family and yourself.

BTW, If I am indeed the recipient, either tell me my shoes don't look professional (when we fly) or don't even mention it on a public forum. That's also professionalism.

I am pretty sure they are out of dress code, which is in our manuals somewhere as well. Yes, studying your manuals is part of being a professional. It isn't either/or. As for being the fashion police, I think that is the cp's job. Not mine. I have flown with guys who don't shave or even bother to wear a tie. I think its a bad reflection on the company for sure but I don't run this place and its slack ass attitude toward customer service and appearance.

The only things I think I would ever say anything about would be bad personal hygiene, like smell, or safety issues. In fact the only guy i've ever called out was at my last airline. He didn't fancy washing his hair, which is fine with me until it got to the point where the flight deck door would close and I would literally start gagging. I had to tell him something.

I think unprofessional would be calling out someone by name. I didn't/wouldn't do that. Also, I don't know if it is you that i flew with (there have been more that one reebokers) or not but I did mention that it was a pleasure to fly with that guy and he was a great pilot. That is the meat for me. But this conversation started about public perception and how we earn our crappy reputation by how we act and dress in the public eye. They pretty much judge us by what they see. (an smell in the case of our disgusting lavs)

If we were a cargo operator or any other type of operator that didn't operate in front of paying passengers, i wouldn't care at all what was worn as it has no bearing on piloting whatsoever.


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