Notices

Spirit of NKS

Old 08-07-2015 | 06:09 AM
  #13161  
king10pin02's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: A320 CA
Default

Originally Posted by fly20201
Anyone else come across captains that are actively trying to leave? I've talked to a couple that aren't even waiting to see if we get a decent contract. Am I missing something? I thought I'd at least wait to see what we get before I decide to leave. I do have apps out and everything up to date, but I haven't felt the urgency to leave right now.
i know of a few that are looking to leave, and i know a dfw fo just left for YOnited
Old 08-07-2015 | 06:41 AM
  #13162  
Plane Ramrod's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,577
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by fly20201
Anyone else come across captains that are actively trying to leave? I've talked to a couple that aren't even waiting to see if we get a decent contract. Am I missing something? I thought I'd at least wait to see what we get before I decide to leave. I do have apps out and everything up to date, but I haven't felt the urgency to leave right now.
While you are waiting another 4-5 years for a TA, you're losing 4-5 years seniority at your next gig.
Old 08-07-2015 | 07:35 AM
  #13163  
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,929
Likes: 0
From: A-320
Default

Originally Posted by fly20201
Anyone else come across captains that are actively trying to leave? I've talked to a couple that aren't even waiting to see if we get a decent contract. Am I missing something? I thought I'd at least wait to see what we get before I decide to leave. I do have apps out and everything up to date, but I haven't felt the urgency to leave right now.

Airlines hire until they furlough so if you are even thinking about leaving, the sooner the better. Also, a lot of CAs haven't been here all that long so easy come, easy go, they don't have much invested here. I certianly wouldn't question a CA for leaving but I wouldn't question anyone for staying. Every single person here has different priorities/motives. Dont let someonelse persuade you one way or another. I went through a stage where I felt like I was missing something when people asked me if I was trying to leave and I was caught offguard by the question, lol. Of course I married really well so I'd I never make DAL 787 CA pay I'll be aigghhtttttt haha. Seriously, don't worry about what other people do.
Old 08-07-2015 | 08:13 AM
  #13164  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,752
Likes: 18
Default

Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Another meltdown is on its way. Two open ACY trips with a show time of 10 mins from now. Lots of open trips this week with zero coverage, how's it look in other bases?
I got offer 2 JA last week. One beginning of reserve period and one at the end. (LAS base)
Old 08-07-2015 | 08:47 AM
  #13165  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,600
Likes: 33
Default

Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Airlines hire until they furlough so if you are even thinking about leaving, the sooner the better. Also, a lot of CAs haven't been here all that long so easy come, easy go, they don't have much invested here. I certianly wouldn't question a CA for leaving but I wouldn't question anyone for staying. Every single person here has different priorities/motives. Dont let someonelse persuade you one way or another. I went through a stage where I felt like I was missing something when people asked me if I was trying to leave and I was caught offguard by the question, lol. Of course I married really well so I'd I never make DAL 787 CA pay I'll be aigghhtttttt haha. Seriously, don't worry about what other people do.
Spot on and people have their reasons.
Old 08-07-2015 | 09:07 AM
  #13166  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 682
Likes: 29
Default

Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I got offer 2 JA last week. One beginning of reserve period and one at the end. (LAS base)


You're cheap on the pay scale. More JA will be heading your way.
Old 08-07-2015 | 09:10 AM
  #13167  
WaveRider's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Default

Just some thoughts, if you are in the group wondering if you should move on. Is the grass greener?
Nobody knows, except those that pull the trigger. I have had friends here approach me about their thoughts and considerations about "moving up" to American, Delta Air......................Lines, United, etc.
These are my thoughts:

Two doctors, same qualifications, same school, and graduated at the same time. One moves to New York, gets a job with a surgical clinic, and makes a ton of money. He works from 5am to 10pm, and has one day off a week.
The other moves back to the town where he grew up, opens a private practice. He makes a fraction of the money his colleague makes. He goes home every night, and enjoys his family.

Two TOTALLY different goals. Some feel the need to make it in the "big leagues" and some are very happy with their lives in the minors.

I am NOT saying I am happy with the current pay rates, but some of us like it here....

People will come and go. People will leave for the "Legacy" carriers. Its all about what that individual wants.

I remember around 2007, I was at a regional. I was commuting out of Atlanta, and Spirit had the D9 gate. My regional's main carrier had a gate directly across from it. I wanted to work here....
I spoke with the captain briefly about Spirit. He said it was a great place to work. He said he was leaving to go to United......
Yall remember, United's pay rates then????
HORRIBLE....
But, he said he always wanted to work for United Airlines....

Anybody remember what happened shortly after that?

United furloughed....AGAIN.......

My point is, do what you feel like YOU need to do...

Not what others think you should do, or what others are doing....

To each their own...
Cheers....
Old 08-07-2015 | 09:21 AM
  #13168  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,600
Likes: 33
Default

Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
You're cheap on the pay scale. More JA will be heading your way.
Not everyone on reserve is at the bottom of the pay scale.

Recently I have flown with the #1 and #2 captains, in the same week, on JA's out of my base. The phone calls are making it to the top of the list in all seats and more than once from other bases. Does the name "Kiwi" ring a bell?
Old 08-07-2015 | 11:28 AM
  #13169  
Douglas9's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: A320 CA
Default

The retirement numbers alone at the legacies make me question why anyone younger than 40 would stay at NK and leave so much $$$$ on the table. I believe we will be lucky to see VX or Jetblue rates in this next contract. Anyone can do the math. Okay. Keep telling yourself it's all about the "quality of life".
Old 08-07-2015 | 11:48 AM
  #13170  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,385
Likes: 0
From: Airplane
Default

I implore anyone senior to me to apply and go to the legacies! You're losing out on higher hourly pay rates, higher 401K contributions and the ability to fly widebodies!

Especially FLL CAs! Why are you still here, it's an easy commute to ATL/EWR/JFK!



Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cs757200
Major
11
08-27-2011 11:55 AM
Splanky
Major
7
05-16-2009 06:13 PM
shiftwork
Major
440
03-18-2009 05:05 PM
DWN3GRN
Major
16
09-02-2008 04:11 PM
A320Flyer
Major
5
09-02-2008 04:05 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices