Maybe they will close down ACY all together...

Maybe there will be no announcement at all. Wouldn't be the first time that happened.

Should we expect an announcement like Frontier just had?????:confused:

I don't think so. F9 is in bankruptcy and need an equity share partner...we aren't in bankruptcy, in fact we are making consistant profits. RAH can kiss my a**!

I think we're going to announce good things soon...can anyone say Havana?

If not it will be the biggest mistake ever!!!

Anyone heard about Judge ruling on NKS bad faith bargaining and company to ask for voluntary furloughs this fall?:confused:

Check your e-mail:

On June 18, Judge Avern Cohn, sitting in federal district court in Detroit, ruled that ALPA’s complaint against Spirit did not meet the very difficult requirements for sustaining a bad faith bargaining claim while the parties remain in mediation. We respect the views of the Court, although we note that it is truly regrettable that Spirit has wasted a full year of bargaining arguing over contract provisions that have nothing to do with economics or efficiency, and were previously the subject of agreement in this round of negotiations. We will proceed on the hope that Spirit will approach bargaining on a more constructive basis, but also with the understanding that Judge Cohn has indicated in his written decision that “The Court may yet have a role” in this matter and, on that basis, dismissed the Complaint “without prejudice,” meaning that ALPA is not barred from filing a future lawsuit based on similar or related conduct by Spirit.

Word is that the company will offer temporary leaves for the fall for anyone that would like to take it. I was told they want to get about 10 pilots off the payroll for sept and oct. Also was told they will shrink ACY by around 5 crews for sept.

If it is just for 2 months, I am sure they won't have any trouble finding 10 guys.

Maybe some of the guys eating up the OT will time out for the year and it won't be a problem for anyone... thanks guys!

I always wonder how they morally felt about that, with guys on the street and possible furloughs.

It is funny you mention that... just recently all of the Captains who live in ACY who continually pick up open time with possible downgrades and furloughs on the way are crying like babies now that their base is going to get shut down or downsized... They were selfish from the start with their ridiculous LOA (don’t get sick)... We all know who you are... The biggest culprits sit high on the seniority list and have been captains for 15 years... I think they were FO's for only 6 months! RM and CB are the OT all stars so far... Nice job guys way to sell out your fraternal brothers...

Good.. I hope they shut it down and this whole stinkin outfit gets bought out by Republic.. they can enjoy the twilight of their careers pushing an RJ out of Columbus for 7 legs a day at 40% of what they make now

deep breaths... ok i'm good

Yeah, but not all of that OT money will ever buy them more time on this earth!!

Can't stop the aging clock...Tic-Tac my friends

Republic? The latest I heard is that jetBlue wants to add some A319's to it's fleet...

I hope JB buys us...

There was over 1400 hours open time for June, plus I don't even remember how many reserve days, something really high. I was sure they would start to run into problems. I was wrong. I bet they did not even have to use reserves. But this whole don't pick OT thing never leads anywhere unless everyone is in it. That will never happen. So go ahead pick it up. At least I did not have to go back for the summer just so they can let me go again in September. Airline pilots = seasonal labor. You know like harvest time and _****.

The only way the OT ban works is if it is specifically written into the contract and the ability to pick it up is shut down by the company itself.

Also I don't want JB to buy us. I want a chance to go there without the amount of Riff Raff (you know WHO I mean) that Spirit has collected over the years.

Well played sir...

What is going on lately??? Seems like a lot of guys are getting the boot!

Boot!! Why?

When they come back, will they let them go to a base that their seniority can hold, or will they stick them wherever they want them indefinitely?

A few perks of being based in ACY:

1.) Wawa chicken philly cheese steaks are the bomb.

2.) You get a workout every time you walk from the train station to your hotel.

3.) Jumpseating is awesome! You always get a 2 leg commute from practically anywhere but Florida!

4.) The Emipre in is 26 bucks a night! The pool is up and running and the water is fine!

5.)Tropiano... Those guys are great! They like us so much they only charge us 13 dollars for a 5 minute ride!

6.) Sure I can hold a 17 day off line in ACY, but who needs that when you lose 2 days each rotation to the un-commutable schedule!

7.) Because flying with senior guys is awesome. They care about the reserves so much they pick up virtually ALL OT so they never have to fly!!! Thanks guys!

8.) 1 dollar employee coffee at Thrashers

9.) Who needs the Boardwalk when you have magical Absecon!

10.) Who says you can't live on Arbys?

11.) 3:30 am wake-up calls everyday are sweet. It makes your day long enough to fly 4 legs AND eat dinner before passing out at 8:00 pm.

Too funny!:D

I heard from a buddy there that they are going to downgrade 10 Capts and reduce ACY or possibly close it as a base?

and I heard 4 got canned last week... is it true?

benefits
 

Hi all, I am just seeking for ideas here, when we were furloughed we got our travel benefits within the company for ONE year after the day of FUR, now, my question is.... What are the chances to ask for another year of those benefits (if any ), and who should I contact for this matter???:confused:

Thank you guys/girls....:cool:

Call up Uncle Ben at home and challenge him to a winner takes all boardgame..

actually I wish they would extend it.. I've been getting around quite a bit

So..And JULY 01 big announcement is.....????

(Feel up the blank)

1-One AC before the end of the yr.
2-Fur-LOA (12) for 2 months.
3-

[quote=Sailor;637887]So..And JULY 01 big announcement is.....????

(Feel up the blank)

1) boobs



how long will the plane that landed at DAB be out of commission? any word on the root cause of the smoke?

Yeah... scratch #1. Make #2 to 2 months, slowly becoming over 1.5-2 years.

My guess for #3 is: brand new series of Ultra Low Cost Commercials. This time: You can get HIV for $9 at Saturday 4AM, in some real bad hood in MIA or you can fly for $9 to Lima, and do the same thing for $50 in a hotel. Whatever.

So much for an announcement...

[quote=RemoveB4flght;637894]
It was ship N524NK that had the "incident" yesterday. It was NOT listed on the flowsheet for today, July 1st. I was told it was suppose to be back in service tonight...can anyone confirm?

Yeah, lets hope this downgrade/furlough BS has the same result.....

[QUOTE=ALPO Whisperer;638227]Woah, wait a second... flow sheet? We still have those? mannn

[quote=taylorjets;638743]
umm, It had a gate return today in FLL. I believe the same problem..

[quote=ALPO Whisperer;638227]Does anyone know exactly what the problem was?

In other news...
 

Spirit to lease four new A320s from AerCap
Brendan Sobie, Miami (30Jun09, 03:16 GMT, 603 words)


Spirit Airlines has accelerated four Airbus A320 deliveries from 2011 to 2010 as part of a three-way deal with Airbus and AerCap.
Speaking to ATI today on the sidelines of the Low Cost Airlines World conference in Miami, Spirit CEO Ben Baldanza reveals the carrier has agreed to lease four new A320s from AerCap that have been ordered by the lessor for delivery in 2010. In exchange, AerCap has taken over four of the six 2011 A320 delivery slots originally assigned to Spirit.
Baldanza says the four 178-seat A320s will allow Spirit to restore most of the capacity it removed last year, when it returned seven A319s to ILFC, leaving it with a fleet of 26 145-seat A319s and two 178-seat A321s.
In addition to cutting capacity, furloughing employees and returning seven aircraft, Spirit dialled back growth last year by deferring all its future aircraft deliveries by about two years. Baldanza says under the revised agreement with Airbus, Spirit, which has 37 A320 family aircraft on outstanding order, was to resume aircraft deliveries in 2011 and subsequently take about six new aircraft per year.
But Baldanza says Spirit decided recently it was ready to resume aircraft deliveries in 2010. He says the first three AerCap A320s will be delivered in the early portion of next year with the fourth aircraft arriving late in 2010.
He says Spirit elected to do the three-way deal with AerCap rather than simply move up four of its own A320 delivery slots because the carrier wanted to avoid paying pre delivery deposits (PDPs). He explains it is hard to secure financing for PDPs in the current capital markets, and with the AerCap deal Spirit doesn't have to worry about this because the lessor has already paid the PDPs.
He says Spirit will be paying PDPs, which are typically due about two years prior to delivery, for its two remaining A320 delivery slots in 2011. He says Spirit is able to cover these with cash but having to cover more PDPs this year with cash would have been too much of a strain on its balance sheet.
For now Spirit is only committed to taking two additional aircraft in 2011 but Baldanza says the carrier may take more if capital markets loosen or it can forge another deal with a lessor similar to the arrangement it has just made with AerCap.
He adds Spirit is hoping capital markets will recover next year in order to facilitate financing for the PDPs on the six to eight aircraft Spirit now plans to take in 2012.
While it expects it will at least initially have to cover some or all of the PDPs for its 2011 and 2012 deliveries, Spirit plans to eventually sell and lease back these aircraft. Baldanza points out that the Florida-based low-cost carrier's entire fleet is now leased, with 17 of its 28 aircraft owned by ILFC.
Until last year ILFC owned 24 of Spirit's 35 aircraft. Baldanza says ILFC was willing to take back seven of these aircraft without early return penalties.
"They saw it as an opportunity to reduce their exposure," he says.
The CEO adds that while there were no early return penalties, ILFC "kept their deposits and reserves" because part of the agreement included the aircraft being returned without a maintenance check.
Baldanza claims negotiating deferrals with Airbus was also not too difficult.
"They recognised we weren't the only ones in the queue asking," he says. "We're an all-Airbus airline. We're one of a few all-Airbus airlines making money. They see us a lot of potential for us. And we're happy with their airplanes."


Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

Well...deliveries are good news.

4 A320's in 2010.
2 A320's in 2011. (possibly more)
6 A320's per subsequent year.

Total of 37 outstanding orders...exactly what BBB told us in recurrent last November. My source told me they are 30 A320's and 7 undisclosed types (A330's??).

Looks like all furloughees should be back by next year.