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Or don't answer the phone, fly your line, and watch them cancel flights. Maybe that will give us some leverage for a decent TA instead of working for that extra 1.5 hours of MUP, so now your hourly CA rate is 145 instead of 126. That's pathetic!

 

[QUOTE=abbynormallaw;2253132]We tried that in June and it didn't get us anywhere. If you have any other ideas that might actually work I'll be happy to give it a try. BTW during June I did fly my line, didn't answer the phone, watched them cancel a few flights and I missed out on about 25k. Seriously dude,...We gotta come up with another plan other bashing pilots that fly OT. I'm ready to strike again like we did in 2010. I hope you are too because it's the only thing that's gonna work

 

[QUOTE=Alphafloor;2253135]It didn't work because of guys picking up the phone...guys like you evidently. I'm just wondering when guys are actually going to get mad here? We now have a SCAB on our list, Bendo no shows negotiations.. It's embarrassing standing next to legacy CA's knowing we are one of the lowest paid airbus operators in the industry! But hey, we're proud here and will bail out the company last minute for MUP and save the day while flying planes with 30% more pax! It is what it is. I choose to work my line, not answer the phone and run to the airport last minute to help them. Time with my family is too important.

 

[QUOTE=abbynormallaw;2253140]Its OK pal, reading comprehension wasn't one of my strong points either

 

[QUOTE=Alphafloor;2253149]Thanks bro. You edited your post while I was writing mine(I can read time stamps). Oh well! Bottom line is, until managements bottom line is affected, we won't see a TA.

 

[QUOTE=abbynormallaw;2253152]No harm done. Just want you to know that during June my phone rang till the battery almost died and didn't get answered. My line guarantee was 73 for the month and that's exactly what I got paid. I thought we had a well concerted effort and was very disappointed to see some of the pilots that I thought were solid cave in so easily. My point is we gotta try something else because 4 or 5 OT bashers on APC aren't getting us anywhere.

 

[QUOTE=Alphafloor;2253156]I agree. We need some better ideas. AA was successful forcing the hand years ago, the only airline to do so.

 

[QUOTE=Alphafloor;2253135]How about this... 1)membership asks leadership to recommend legal work actions. 2) leadership tells lawyers what they want and asks for ways to make said actions justified 3) leadership tells membership to fall in line and makes the time to personally persuade each of the approx 200 OT queens to fall in line. 4) as a group we support each other even when the legal job actions cause us personal inconvenience like gate returns, or open write ups or cancellations. 5) the leadership schedules more public displays of our frustration.

But wait... we are going to self censor by quickly saying "the lawyers won't approve" or "we can't do that". And there you have it. We don't have the balls to do it. Always looking for lawyers to give permission. I've hired lawyers for the last 20 years and not one of them wants to stick their neck out. You've got to tell them what you want and to find a legal way to make it happen. Lawyers always say "don't".

Or we can continue to wait until the other side is ready.

 

WOW 112 credit with 7 days off! OMG! *** is this pilot doing? Looks to be very low on IQ points.

 

Correction...it's worse than you stated.