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Old 10-25-2015 | 08:57 AM
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Side benefit? The guys with bots may not have reset the time for opening.

A little nervous because my requests from just a little earlier were still in there. I don't see this ending well.

Looks like the trip I wanted was picked up at 1240 by someone else. Now, it's no longer available in Open Time and has been assigned outside of the Open Time window.

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Old 10-25-2015 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by yawdamp
Double-check the trips you wanted. I see one trip that was there - prior to this debacle, now not...
I think some of those trips were awarded before the time was recharged to 1300. That's what happened to one trip I tried to get.
Old 10-25-2015 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
I think some of those trips were awarded before the time was recharged to 1300. That's what happened to one trip I tried to get.
Same here, I put in my initial request at 12:15 and it was denied at 12:38 because it was picked up by another CM. Apprently they didn't cancel out the requests that were in before 13:00.
Old 10-25-2015 | 09:52 AM
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It's a good thing incompetence on behalf of the company is acceptable in our unions eye's otherwise this place would be in trouble...I'm sure JA already gave some relief...I mean come on this is the first Spirit has done intial open time
Old 10-25-2015 | 10:48 AM
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How do you know in Flica what time the other pilot placed their DOT bid? I see a few I bid on was denied but only shows the pilot and his employee #.
Old 10-25-2015 | 10:57 AM
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You can only see what time the system awarded it not when they hit submit

Anything awarded prior to 1300 should be an automatic grievance since the time was changed.

The whole process should be a group grievance

And when are we going to put a stop to the auto bot trading? Even jetblues old student council was able to end that shady practice.

Btw where the fukc is my quid from June?

And where the fukc is our industry leading TA or at least the one that the NC committee admits to conceding two of our key protections, 29/7 and Junior assignment.

What the fukc- over
Old 10-25-2015 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ThrustClimb
How do you know in Flica what time the other pilot placed their DOT bid? I see a few I bid on was denied but only shows the pilot and his employee #.
I don't believe there is a way via FLICA, but the company is required to keep a log of all requests. My request was logged at 1217 and denied at 1240. The email from Crew Planning stating that everyone would start from scratch at 1300 was sent at 1244.

My requests in for other trades are still processing, those were made at 1218 and 1219.
Old 10-25-2015 | 11:24 AM
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My request was put in right at 13:00 and is still processing. What......the........F---------
Old 10-25-2015 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
You can only see what time the system awarded it not when they hit submit

Anything awarded prior to 1300 should be an automatic grievance since the time was changed.

The whole process should be a group grievance

And when are we going to put a stop to the auto bot trading? Even jetblues old student council was able to end that shady practice.

Btw where the fukc is my quid from June?

And where the fukc is our industry leading TA or at least the one that the NC committee admits to conceding two of our key protections, 29/7 and Junior assignment.

What the fukc- over
Are you going to submit an NCC after everything shakes out? I am if I didn't receive a proper award. This forum is one place to go for info since JA's podcasts are generally long on information regarding ALPA committee meetings, conferences and the latest goings on at National, while short on actual detail that the majority of us are concerned with, i.e. negotiations, meltdown payout. However, it takes a lot of reading through hundreds of BS posts and b**ching to get a very small bit of info that might be useful. But, it's better than nothing in some cases.

This is a great place to come vent, just ensure that we all back up things with the proper paperwork. In this case, submit your NCC's.
Old 10-25-2015 | 11:44 AM
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Of course I will.
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