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05-24-2016 | 02:09 PM

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The Juice

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Originally Posted by Gunga Din

How about they say no JA and no working days off for pay protection in July, period. 1:1, go for it. Improve your life. But for one month, one freaking month, we legally refrain from overtime work as is our legal right!

I understand what you are saying, and nice to see someone with motivation, but it is an illegal work action for the union to specifically say that.

Them's the breaks.....

05-24-2016 | 02:21 PM

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Gunga Din

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Originally Posted by The Juice

I understand what you are saying, and nice to see someone with motivation, but it is an illegal work action for the union to specifically say that.

Them's the breaks.....

I believe you're right. But there is lots of room to have a much more assertive posture. I'm just asking them to drive, not be driven.

05-24-2016 | 04:06 PM

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gonyon

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Love that I just flew a 767 load for less than E190 pay! Less money more go! High five fornaro! (In the face, with a chair)

Lotiér

05-24-2016 | 05:56 PM

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Jyrist Rantman

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Originally Posted by gonyon

Love that I just flew a 767 load for less than E190 pay! Less money more go! High five fornaro! (In the face, with a chair)

Lotiér

You have only yourself to blame for that.

05-25-2016 | 06:05 AM

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Gunga Din

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From: A320 Right

"Hawaiian Airlines Pilots Plan Picket To Protest Slow Pace Of Negotiations"

When are we going to act?

05-25-2016 | 06:49 AM

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Plane Ramrod

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Originally Posted by Gunga Din

"Hawaiian Airlines Pilots Plan Picket To Protest Slow Pace Of Negotiations"

When are we going to act?

What action would you like to see? Neither passengers nor management care about a bunch of pilots holding signs at the airport. Billboard? Again nobody cares. The current plan to show at the shareholders' meeting is probably the most effective, followed by an MEC vote of no confidence.

Like I said before the MEC needs to push for mediation as quickly as possible and I'm sure they are. Until we are in mediation a potential release is far off. Until there is a threat of a release we have no teeth.

05-25-2016 | 06:51 AM

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Plane Ramrod

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Originally Posted by Gunga Din

1:1, go for it. Improve your life.

Who makes these rules?
Noone I voted for.

05-25-2016 | 07:12 AM

#6298

Spear it

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Can anyone recommend an Electronic Logbook that will upload flights from the past few years? What works best with Spirit's Flica/Crewtrac?

05-25-2016 | 07:31 AM

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Poppachubby

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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin

Out of curiosity why is what Ram did over the line? He stated he picked up a turn to increase the transition conflict for June/July. He did not pick up something on June 1st or 2nd. If he gets his conflict the company will be right back to needing it covered. So, Ram makes the company pay more and they still need it covered. Isn't that a win/win? Ya, his motivation is probably selfish but that's not your argument.

I agree with everything you said except the last line. Pretty much as you stated, If a person can pick up a single day trip in the prior month and it results in say dropping four days in following month, it's harder on the company and won't hurt the pilot group at all. I usually have my conflict set up on initial bid, but won't think twice about picking up from open time to create one if need be. I don't think this is being selfish at all. Your not taking any candy from the baby. Pilot wins, pilot group doesn't suffer, company loses.